Charcoal

[Shari]

One last question.

Can a Charcoal, Anery B, be identified from phenotype alone?

I have a very large Anery female. She is probably one of the biggest corns I have ever seen. (That is not saying a whole lot. I haven't seen a lot of corns.)

To my untrained eye she looks Charcoal.
She has no yellow at all. A very faint pattern on her head, a barely descernible arrowhead. Overall she is shades of grey, with very little if any brown in the saddles.
Do I have a charcoal or an anery?

I do not have my digital camera or I would post a picture of this pretty girl.

Thanks,
Shari

 

[Darin Chappell]

There's no certain way to tell without utilizing breeding trials. Sorry.

 

[Edmund]

So Darin, how do you tell from breeding trials? Are Anery A and B incompatible?

Thanks

 

[Darin Chappell]

Yes, they are.

Anery A and anery B are non-allelic, so when you cross an "A" with a "B" (and neither of them is het for the other), you will get 100% normal hatchlings, each of one of which is double het for "A" & "B," assuming they share no other common hets like amel or something.

Now, as a list of GENERAL RULES, which are not set in stone:

1) "A" animals have more contrast between their saddles and their ground color

2) "A" animals develop more yellow on their chin/neck regions than do "B" animals

3) As hatchlings, "B" babies are much darker in overall coloration than "A" animals (they got their name because the hatchlings look like a piece of charcoal)

4) It is often times difficult to tell "A" animals from "B" animals as adults

So, if you bred an "A" to a "B" and you get anerthristic animals in the clutch along with normals, you know:

1) Your two animals are not completely compatable in their homozygous makeup (One is homozygous for something that the other is not. Which one is which??? That's another question that can only be answered by introducing another mate into the picture, I'm afraid).

2) At least one of your animals is het for what the other one carries. They may both be het for what the other carries.

3) Those anery hatchlings will be easier to distinguish what they are right now than when they get older (see above).

4) But, to be 100% certain, you are going to have to wait for another 2 - 3 years to pass so you can perform MORE breeding trials.

Fun, Huh?



Edmund,

I know you already know some of these things (maybe all of it!), but I thought I would go ahead and throw all of this in the mix so someone else might benefit from it. Hope it helps someone, maybe.

 

[Edmund]

Thanks, Darin, for all the info. You presented it in a concise and easy-to-understand way. I knew some of that stuff, but not all. And it's nice to reread that stuff so I keep it straight in my head.

 

[Serpwidgets]

Just to make Darin's point that the general rules are not set in stone:

This hypo charcoal (still young) is developing a lot of yellow.

 

[Serpwidgets]

And this is a charcoal:

 

[kenster]

Serp, For the love of god man trim your fingernails!