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Constricting snakes

Jicin

Jicin

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I got a bunch of wuzzies for snakes.

My stripe won't constrict. She prefers to just grab on and wait till the peach fuzzy expieres. So i usually give her the ones the move the least. I do try to make the fuzzy act big and feriousios by moving it and pretending to attack the snake. She doesn't care.

Nandi at least constricted the pinkie. She imidiately rolled up in a ball and rolled all over the feeding basket. Very funny to see. After death she didn't know what to do and just let go. Then tried to swallow it while still constricting. Took her a bit to let go.

Then my bloodred yearling. I gave her 2 small hoppers this time. First time feeding that size for me. First i thought it sad to let them be eaten. Then the little ferosious critters jumped and bit me. Didn't hurt though.
Obviously he never eaten live so he just grabbed the hopper by the head. Effectively disableing the mouse though, but he had a hard time. He took the next one a bit better. He constricted but then didn't know what to do. He let the mouse go but still constricted. After a bit the mouse got consious again. Again it took a bit before it was finally eaten.

What sort of wussies do i have? I thought the snakes would just know naturally what do with prey to big to just be gobbled up. I would like them to kill the mice a bit quicker. Even though i make sure i give no live mice big enough to really bite. The excersice will be good for them. Or is it something that needs to be learned? Or had the natural instinct already been damaged by captivety?
 
I there any particular reason that you aren't feeding f/t? One thing that you will notice is that like people, each snake has their own way of doing things. It doesn't mean that any one is more right that the others, just different. :)
 
Why are you replying to me while you know we don't 'get along' and i asked you several times to just leave me alone?
 
I don't have a problem with you just the manner in which you talk to others

I simply answered your post like I would for anyone else. It wasn't mean, it wasn't antagonistic, and it certainly didn't warrant such a nasty response. :shrugs:
 
Leave me alone. I'm asking nicely because i don't want to get into any other fight. It's not to be nasty.
 
Jicin if you ask a question take a reply, there's no good reason to feed a snake live and if you continue you may well end up with a mouse or whatever chewing your snakes eye out (yes it has happened) and im sure you'd have fun explaining that to a vet or whomever but the reason it won't constrict is probably because it doesn't see it as much of a challenge but either way i strongly reccomend you switch to F/T
 
If your snake gets used to eating live, by the time it is eating big mice, it may be too late to switch to f/t.
 
hey guys, i have the same problem, the first time she ate she constricted but then the second time she just tried to swallow it, i was afraid that the mouse might hurt her, even tho its a baby, doesnt it still have claws. also i can get any frozen mice here, and my mom wont let me put them in the frezzer if i order bulks. wanted to know wat do i do?
 
Manson, you can kill the mice before you feed. I have read some rather gruesome posts about how to kill a mouse, just use the search thing.
 
I believe he meant "can't" when he said "also i can get any frozen mice here". I may be mistaken though.
 
If you feed live there is a possibility that they will refuse frozen/thawed.
If you want to exercise your snakes when feeding f/t just grab the tail of the mouse after the snake grabs the head and move the mouse so the snake thinks it's alive and will constrict the mouse.May work may not.
 
Hehe. That's my problem. The only pet store near me who has frozen mice smell rotten. And look really bad to. The owner told me the stench came from frozen water flees or whatever. The whole store stank from them :/
Usually i buy live from another petstore and freeze and kill them myself. But i'm out of frozen right now so i bought fresh one and gave them right away. Unfortunately, they all gobbled them all up. Tomorrow i buy my own mice to make sure i finally have the amount i need when i need it. And the correct size to. I freeze what i don't directly need and give the rest right away.
I know not all agree but that is how i have decided to deal with it.

All my snakes swith from f/t to live no problem. My yearling has always fed on f/t. I prefer to give them both life and f/t for as long as i need.
 
Jicin said:
All my snakes swith from f/t to live no problem. My yearling has always fed on f/t. I prefer to give them both life and f/t for as long as i need.
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F/t to live is usually not the problem; it is the reverse process that causes the issues. As long as you're aware that there is some risk in not being able to switch back once a snake gets hooked on live then the discussion is yours to make :)
 
If it bites one thing...

Jicin,
I don't want to start anything here, but if the hopper jumped up and bit you; what makes you think it won't bite the snake? Even if you are not feeding f/t I would pre-kill everything you give them - including pinkies. That way when you do start pre-killing weanlings and adult mice (as I presume you are going to do?) you won't have a problem with them only accepting live. Just my opinion.
- chris
 
Jicin said:
Why are you replying to me while you know we don't 'get along' and i asked you several times to just leave me alone?
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enough with all the bickering Jicin, if you post a topic then you will get replys that is what a forum is for. This is a forum for askin questions, and talkin about cornsnakes. Get off your high horse and lay off with all the negative flak.

About the constricting some do and some dont. If you feed frozen then go for live your snake will not constrict at first. Give it time your snake will come around.
 
I only gave my normal one time 2 live pinkies, she did not contrict because there is no reason to....

However I don't make it a habit, it was one time we had fresh pinkies. I would hate for any type of accident to happen and my corns get bit, and then dealing with an open wound in an inclosure with possible bactiera build up. *cringe*
 
The hopper bite was painless. I decided againts killing them because they simply weren't strong enough to bite anyway.

newt sometimes 2 people who can't get along should just leave each other be instead of trying to get in each others way. Nobody on this forum likes bickering. I simply can't even see his reply because he's on my ignore list. I simply want to stop possible bickering in alls benefit. I don't seek him out, he don't seek me out. I hope people will accept this. I find your post however unnessasary insulting.

Krenna no way i'll let a mice strong enough to actually bite near my snake. I experienced the hoppers bite first hand.

Besides, by now i am very well aware of pros and cons of life feeding and i am able to make a decision of how i choose to care for them. If my choice would be life adult mice so be it. But thanks for the advice.

Anyway, i bought 120 frozen mice of several sizes, including adults, on the snake fair in Houten this weekend. They looked excellent and deliver for a cheap rate. From now on live will be a rare treat :)

Still the original question stays. Are my snakes wuzzies or simply 'untrained' for constriction? Is the instinct lost due to breeding?
 
Its not training.. it's called instinct..

If the snake does not need to constrict prey it won't.

If your shaking a dead mouse in a snakes face then I can see it constricting the prey to disable it for eating.
 
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