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Constricting snakes

Yeah. That's what i though. But why doesn't my stripe constrict? She grabs the fuzzy and it's strong enough to literally drag her across the feeding container. Also, i would have expected my 13 months old bloodred to constrict correctly. Instead the mouse just woke up and started strugling again. Presumably because he let go a bit allowing the mice to breath again and regain consiousness.
 
i still see dont see why you dont kill it, whether you think it's strong enough to bite or not? Seems to me it save you a lot of wondering and questions with just a screwdriver and one quick tug of the tail.
 
So Pirate55 said:
i still see dont see why you dont kill it, ......... with just a screwdriver and one quick tug of the tail.
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I never could understand why some kill their feeders before freezing. These mice are so small they are frozen stiff before they have a clue.

With that said, tell me more about the screwdriver and tail tug method. :shrugs:

Eric
 
If the mouse has hair...or past fuzzy stage...it takes too long for the snake to freeze and thus causes an agonizing death.

The method above
daytona said:
the screwdriver and tail tug method
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is very easy. You place the mouse on a hard surface, and place a screw drive at the base of the neck. Then you take a firm grip of the tail, and pull the tail up while putting pressure on the neck with the screw driver, this will break the neck. It is quick, bloodless, and probably one of the more humane ways to pre-kill a feeder.

Another way to do this, is to flick your finger on the back of the head as talked about in another thread. Will have to see if I can find it again. This one has pictures and points to where you strike the head....here is the link: http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14284
 
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^lol yeah freezing the snake would not be good.

daytona, I was talking about just prekilling the mouse before feeding, not before freezing. Although i think i'd kill it before just popping it in the freezer too. pcarr pretty much summed up the method or you could just do like my brother who couldnt get the hang of it, so he flipped the screwdriver around backwards and just hit the mouse in the head. He's gotten to the point where it's quick and painless.
 
So Pirate55 said:
^lol he flipped the screwdriver around backwards and just hit the mouse in the head.
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I live in Florida, However I have been up north a time or two. I hate the cold more than an unkilled hopper.

I can't imagine a mouse even knows he is in the freezer. By the time they get cold, it's all over. No pain. They get numb and it's over. Did you ever get really cold? It doesn't hurt all that much. You get numb and your body starts to shiver in attempt to keep warm. When your body temp starts to drop, the shivering stops. That's it. That's all she wrote. Nada. No more. Outta here. Over and out.

One missed shot when killing with a screwdriver would hurt "me" more than freezing a dozen live ones. I wrap them in tin foil as if I was rolling a cigarette and dump them in the bottom draw of the freezer as I go. I never see or handle any dead mice until they thaw. I felt bad the first time I did it. Not since. Be tough man! You can do it too. :sobstory: Please take this in jest. I would say I'm only kidding but that's one of the three big lies.

When new at this, prior to freezing alive I would bounce them on the floor in the 4x4 paper box they come in. This would stun them so the frezzer wouldn't "hurt" them. Yes, at first I thought this was more humane. Well after due condideration, I changed my mind. Now I just roll them up in tin foil and freeze them. Why bother doing more? Freezing would be my choice over having my skull crushed by a giant.

Eric
 
my 2cts - Constricting is instinctive but just like any other predator the snake gets better with practice. However a captive bred snake that gets prekilled meals has no reason to hone this skill. In a wild snake situation the ones with weaker instincts to constrict might not live to pass on their genes but CB's are bred for other reasons than ability to hunt. I think most people would keep a laid back hatchling that takes frozen pinks as opposed to a nippy one which has the killer instinct, we do keep them as pets after all
 
So Pirate55 said:
^lol yeah freezing the snake would not be good.

daytona, I was talking about just prekilling the mouse before feeding, not before freezing. .
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Though my last post went in three hours after yours, I failed to read what you posted. I fell asleep while typing. :) However there are many here who seem to be a bit sqeemish about freezing live mice. However, not many would feel very bad for the mouse if it was being fed live.

My Okatee is a year and a half old and almost three feeet long. If I go to the pet store for feeders when he is due to eat, (I buy a 1/2 dozen at a time) he will get a live one as a treat. He knew what to do the first time at bat. However if I feed him a live pinkey or peach fuzzie he might just eat it without constricting it first.

Eric
 
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Flygning said:
Pcar, I believe you mean it takes too long for the MOUSE to freeze ;)
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sorry. my brain was moving 100 miles an hour, and my hands only 10. I would not freeze the snake.
 
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