Coral snow . . .

[ecreipeoj]

Homo Hypos

Coral Snow = Homo Standard Hypo, amel and Anery A, I believe.

What are we going to call Homo Amel, Anery A and “Different Hypo”? Sunkissed Hypo for example or Lava Hypo or another unproven Hypo.

They may look like Coral Snows, but are they? Will they be compatable?

 

[Walter Smith]

My thoughts...

... are that standard Hypo was used, but I'm not certain. I really didn't talk with Don in detail about that. I'm sure if he reads this post, he will step in and give his knowledge on them.

Maybe using another type Hypo trait will give us a different look and probably won't be compatible to this line, but until that time comes and a line of Snow is produced by using another type of hypo and we actually see what it turns out to look like, I don't think we should worry about what we are going to call that.

"Coral" is simply being implied here for identification of the pink coloration on a Snow Corn. Just as "Green Blotched" is implied to a Snow Corn with green blotches.

Maybe it could be another factor that is enhancing the dark pink coloration here. What if this line was begun using a dark example
"Crimson" ?

Then again, it could just be a refinement through selective breeding trials.

Either way, I think they are stunning and will become a more popular variety of Snow Corn.

Just my opinion,
Walter
BTW Joe, that Snow Okeetee is awesome !!!

 

[SODERBERGD]

Walter's right, , , well. . . .

I guess you're both right. I created my first "coral" snow some ten years ago by breeding two ghosts together that were het. for amelanistic. The results were snows and ghosts. I sold 'em off as regular snows and when someone showed me a snow I'd sold them from that breeding it was coral colored. I'd seen and bought coral snows in the past, but didn't know it was something you could make from the combination of hypo., anerythristic and amelanistic. Joe's right since you "should" get pink snows from combining those traits homozygously.

It was Jim Stelpflug that prompted me to start keeping the snows from those ghost to ghost breedings. He said I'd be impressed with the "coral" colors. Now, what Joe was alluding to is that Jim must have some powerful hypo. gene there. I say this because my older lines of "coral" snows are nothing compared to the ones I got from Jim. Those are way off the charts in color and of course they'll get better as we "unnaturally" select the best ones to breed to each other. I don't know, but perhaps he's working with a hypo. not allelic to what else is out there??? Here is a picture of one of the ghosts adults I have from Jim. It's similar to the one posted earlier today from the U.K.. To me it appears that the rich colors of this ghost line are responsible for the intense "coral" colors of this particular line of snow.

Where Walter is right is that it's probably possible to get pink snows from snakes without hypo. in them. AND with all the allegedly new hypo. genes floating around out here, who knows what's next?

In conclusion, I think coral snows should apply to the phenotype and not a genotype until we know more about the behavior of this combination of genes. At least that's the way it is today. Who knows what tomorrow will bring with more breeding trials.

 

[ecreipeoj]

Simply Amazing!

It is amazing how much pink is showing up these days on Snows, Ghost and Anery A's. We thought we were taking color away and look what we found hiding underneith.

All of the snakes pictured above are simply AMAZING!

 

[SODERBERGD]

Sure is tempting. . .

. . . to call that a salmon ghost. If that color isn't "salmon", I don't know what is. Of course, in classic hypo tradition, don't expect to see it very much in the females. This is primarily a male color. There are exceptions, but the gals have to sit this one out. Like many ghosts and hypos, the females just don't traditionally carry the best colors.

 

[gardenmum]

That is a very

stricking looking ghost. GREAT! The grey eyes look out of place with all that color though, like they don't belong on that snake. Cool.

 

[Drizzt80]

The pics of the coral snows are amazing! I have also been astounded at the variability within the ghost combinations out there.

Question though, what other 'double recessive' plus hypo morphs have been combined so far? If it has such a dramatic affect on snows, how does it affect the other combos? For example Hypo Butters, Hypo Opals, Hypo Blizzards? Anyone have some to speak of, or pics?

D80

 

[Taceas]

Wow, beautiful snakes! I'm with CornCrazy, I'm not much of a snow person..but wow, that makes me want to add a pair of those to my collection. And I've already taken the vow of "No More Snakes for the Year" to my husband.

I think that would look awesome with some of Joe's Lava Hypo genes. His genes seem to enhance the red colors, it'd be interesting to see what came out of a Lava Coral Snow. >=)

So Don, when are you going to offer those gorgeous animals for sale for the rest of us?

 

[SODERBERGD]

Corals

I've been selling coral snows for about five years. I have an inhouse policy that if I can't produce at least 30 of a morph, I don't advertise it on my price list. Many of the snakes in my photo gallery are for sale, but they're not on the price list (front page) of my web page because I have not produced at least 30 of them. I think I sold a couple dozen of them this past season.

Anyway, I'm sure I'll have more of them this coming season, but don't forget where I got mine. Jim Stelpflug at SWR. He's bound to have more than I will since that particularly intense line is his.