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Dead snake, lots of questions

I am sorry to hear about your sons snake! The new snow is beautiful though. I like your snow a lot too! I noticed you were from kentucky, where abouts? I live in Richmond.
 
Hey Chris! I'm in Winchester (Clark Co.) located very south in the county.
Are you a college student at EKU?
It's always awesome to find someone who lives in Kentucky. It seems we're a fairly under-represented state when you're dealing with internet forums.

Where do you purchase your snakes? I'm having such a doosey of a time with pet stores around here that I'm really seriously toying with breeding. Do you know any reputable breaders in our area, hell, even our state for that matter?

I also saw somewhere that the next snake expo was going to be in Raleigh, which isn't that bad a drive from here. I may actually have to attend this year......

Anyhoo, Nice to meet ya!
 
What about an online breeder?

There's many many who breed and are very good, hell, there's even this guy called Rich who I heard produces some pretty good lookin' snakes every year. :)
 
I'm certainly expanding my options these days Joejr.!! LOL! I would never have guessed I'd suddenly find myself so enthralled with the idea of owning more snakes!!

Gotta quick question too. What does the 1.0 & 0.1 stuff stand for. I think I've been able to deduce that it signifies male and female, but then I see the 0.2 and I get confused. Probably a silly question, but I'd rather ask than sit here for a month trying to play crypto with those numbers.
 
wildernessey said:
I'm certainly expanding my options these days Joejr.!! LOL! I would never have guessed I'd suddenly find myself so enthralled with the idea of owning more snakes!!

Gotta quick question too. What does the 1.0 & 0.1 stuff stand for. I think I've been able to deduce that it signifies male and female, but then I see the 0.2 and I get confused. Probably a silly question, but I'd rather ask than sit here for a month trying to play crypto with those numbers.
Click to expand...

Gasp! www.serpenco.com, and just browse.

Male.Female.Unknown

:) No question is silly.
 
I see where you're getting confused.

'04 0.2 Normal

That just means I've got two '04 Normal corns, instead of one.
 
ugh...I'm still lost.... 1.0 would be a female? and 0.1 male? or 0.1 one unknown?! LMAO! This suddenly got more complicated!!!
 
So the number in front of the decimal denotes male or female.
0=female
1=male
The number after the decimal denotes the number of..... 1, 2, 3, etc...???
 
Okay, lemme give it a shot:
1.1 snow would mean 1 male and 1 female snow corn (the first number means how many males, the second means how many females, and of course snow is the morph of corn)

1.1.2 snow would mean 1 male, 1 female, and 2 unsexed snow corns (the last number means that 2 of the snakes have not been sexed yet)

And of course an '02, '03, '04 etc in front of these numbers would indicate when the snake was hatched.

Have I helped you any? :wavey:
 
ah!! Yes, thank you so much! This is sinking in now. Boy, if you think this is bad, you should've seen me suffer through algebra when I was younger! OMG! That was a nightmare...this hurt for a while too, but it's coming along in my old brain.

so males first, females second, if there's a third number it's the number of unsexed.
And yes of course, snow, or amel, or normal, or butter, etc....I followed that part, and the 03, 04, etc. was easy enough as well.....it was all those damn decimal points!! LMAO!

so for example (lets test how well this has sunk in) you have one male and one female hurricane butter motleys, one male amel (named Sneaky, hmm, wonder where he got that name?) one female normal het blizzard, and one female albino jungle corn, correct?
whoo hoo!! I think I got this now!
Thanks so much for humoring me guys!! I really appreciate it!
 
YAY!!!!!! You have got it now! I'm sure it's confusing to someone who is looking at it for the first time. BTW congrats on the new baby, and my sympathies for the one that died. Glad I could help! :cheers:
 
ooooh :( the new baby is not doing well....thus my comments about reputable breeders in our area. I'm fairly certain after observing her tonight that she has a RI.
I'm eagerly awaiting her first shed since coming home in hopes that that is the problem, but I'm really, really worried about her. She appears to have gotten thinner over the last day. I know that sounds strange, but I really think I'm watching her die. It's breaking my heart.
I'm going to call the pet store in the morning and let them know they sold me a sick snake, and that if she dies I'm coming back for my money! I'm going to call the vet in the morning also and see if they work with snakes at all. Luckily, I have a REALLY good repore with my vet. I'm a huge animal lover, so they're used to seeing me.
I'm not sure the shed is going to solve the issue tho. She's clicking, but I noticed tonight that she is opening her mouth for EVERY breath and when she breathes it's great big deep breaths. She's lathargic and laying under the heat.
I told my son tonight to be prepared for the worst. That I was going to do everything in my power to save her, and if she lives then great, but not to get his hopes up.
It's so sad.
I offered her a pinkie tonight, knowing full well that with an upcoming shed and the fact that she might be sick that she probably wouldn't eat, and she didn't. But she's so small, and seems to get thinner daily......she and her sister should never have been up for sale. Her sister was injured on top of her head, head very swollen, the damn guy offered me $10 off if I'd buy her!!! I was astounded! So of course I chose the one I thought was healthy, but she's not. It's just so sad.......
 
and in light of the other strange threads I've come across on here lately, I'm not fishing for freebies!! LMAO!! I wouldn't even dream of doing something like that. At this point in time, just consider me someone with crappy luck, cause that's what I am!! LOL! ;)
 
Clark county huh? I have an uncle in winchester, and that is where my best friend lives. About breeders in the area, I guess you haven't heard about the Kentucky reptile expo. It is in shelbyville, usually on the first saturday of the month. It runs from ten in the morning until four in the afternoon. Get there early for the good stuff! There are a few good breeders in the area. I usually deal with Dwight Good. He is a great guy and has helped me with any problems I have encountered. Thank goodness I have only had one. I have gotten three of my corns from him. Another respected breeder in the area is Scott Petty. I have yet to deal with him though. If you are looking for something online, any ad on the for sale list here is worth checking in to. I am in the process of buying two normals from Russ Bates. I highly recommend him. I haven't received the snakes yet, but it is to cold here as you well know right now to ship them. Stupid snow! Oh well. He is patiently waiting for the weather to warm up to ship, but so far he has been great. If you have any other questions you can e-mail me at [email protected] I haven't been into keeping corns but for a little under a year, but I will be glad to help you if I can. It's great to meet someone close to home with the same interest.
 
Indeed!
And no I didn't know there was an expo in Shelbyville!! WOW! Where is this?! I want directions! Email me @ [email protected] with the directions! That ROCKS! I will go one weekend.
And it's a shame you couldn't have gotten them shipped last week. It was in the 60's, then the bottom fell out. We've already got about an inch of snow here and I wasn't expecting that at all. I don't feel like I can trust the weather people to be accurate, so it really doesn't surprise me!! LOL
Thanks for being so helpful. I'll be sure to keep you in mind if I have any questions.
 
I'm sorry to hear that the baby isn't doing any better, and indeed sounds worse. Open mouth breathing is not good at all. You ARE having really bad luck! I would definitely take it back to where you got it and get your money back. Now you're going to have to disinfect that tank again, oh my! I'm glad you've gotten some good leads on reputable breeders and good luck at the expo. :wavey:
 
A suggestion

I thought of somehting that might be an issue with yout hatchling tank set up.....

The last one died of recurrent regurgitation which could have been initially sparked by temps too low to facilitate digestion and continued by feeding again too early....the new one is showing signs of respiratory distress...which could be caused by temperatures too low (coupled with a moist environment perhaps).

I strongly suggest you check (and perhaps raise) the temperatures over the warm side of the tank but still allow for a temperature gradient and leave the water bowl (keep it small) on the cool side of the tank to make it less likely to humidify the air too much. If you do have a respiratory problem there, you MUST heat up the tank without overheating the snake to help it fight it off. I also suggest seeing a vet as if it's a bacterial infection, you'll need antibiotics.

Forget about daily handling for now, leave the snake as undisturbed as possible and nice and warm to allow it to recover, hand taming can come later.

Good luck, I hope your snake pulls through,
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JTGoff, that was my thought too, but not knowing what they would do with her, kill her, re-sell her, etc? My imagination runs wild on me! And although I spent a good amount on her it breaks my heart to think of returning her to that store. I would rather she died under my care. Selfish isn't it?
And heat may be the culprit.
I'm running to the store today to buy a new heat lamp. I've had a ceramic one in there but it's small, and has a small hood which doesn't allow for much displacement.
Anyone have any suggestions for types of heat I can use?
I can't remember the verdict on the infra red. Wouldn't seem to be needed, but heck at this point I'll try ANYTHING!
 
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