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Do you think this is a hybrid..?
- Thread starter BeauBoi
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HerpsOfNM
My name's Blurryface...
Phenotypically...looks like a corn, fun pattern at that.
Genotypically, well you could try to find a university lab to take either a blood or scale sample and then have them process it against mtDNA and nDNA. Keeping this super simplistic, mtDNA, or Mitochondrial DNA will show markers maternal genetics, while nDNA, or Nuclear DNA, is used for showing markers for paternal genetics.
Thoughts: Looks like a corn snake that possibly has a lineage that ties back to zigzag/Aztec/funky blotch animals. Or it could be random and/or the result of askewed incubation temps. In my experience, jacked incubation temps has resulted in catastrophic deformities (severe kinking, odd head formation, all offspring died in egg or shortly after pipping) and is thankfully something I've not experienced since 2002. I had some seriously messed up snow corns and great plains rat snakes from my "female leopard gecko" incubator spiking to 88°F; it was supposed to be at 82.
Genotypically, well you could try to find a university lab to take either a blood or scale sample and then have them process it against mtDNA and nDNA. Keeping this super simplistic, mtDNA, or Mitochondrial DNA will show markers maternal genetics, while nDNA, or Nuclear DNA, is used for showing markers for paternal genetics.
Thoughts: Looks like a corn snake that possibly has a lineage that ties back to zigzag/Aztec/funky blotch animals. Or it could be random and/or the result of askewed incubation temps. In my experience, jacked incubation temps has resulted in catastrophic deformities (severe kinking, odd head formation, all offspring died in egg or shortly after pipping) and is thankfully something I've not experienced since 2002. I had some seriously messed up snow corns and great plains rat snakes from my "female leopard gecko" incubator spiking to 88°F; it was supposed to be at 82.
Thx for the reply, I appreciate the input!
As would have it, I am trying make up my mind on what morphs I am going to add to my collection this year, and while in the process of finding a reputable breeder who has everything I am looking for, I stumbled onto this add...
He doesn't really fit into any breeding plans, but I ~Need~ this snake! LOL
I am leaning towards going ahead and getting him, and doing a scale count when he arrives....
Thanks!
~Beau
As would have it, I am trying make up my mind on what morphs I am going to add to my collection this year, and while in the process of finding a reputable breeder who has everything I am looking for, I stumbled onto this add...
He doesn't really fit into any breeding plans, but I ~Need~ this snake! LOL
I am leaning towards going ahead and getting him, and doing a scale count when he arrives....
Thanks!
~Beau
NiklasTyreso
New member
It looks like a zigzag cornsnake.
Thanks! Personally, I think she looks sort of like an amel reverse okeetee that got really confused...lol, but I am constantly looking for weird patterns to cross with my scaleless. Call me crazy, but I like the odd-balls!
~Beau
Well...I was supposed to be getting the snake today....but I never received the tracking number yesterday. So I called the guy and left a message yesterday telling him I hadn't received a tracking number, but never got a response. I called and emailed again this morning...still no reply...
~Beau
~Beau
Well, I just got an email from him (he is the sales represent ice for a very well known reptile company) saying that he was mistaken when he told me that the snake was definitely still available, and that an employee had sold it and he just forgot to tell me until today.... Also, he will refund my money as soon as he can....
I don't know if I am going to post a BOI or not, but I used money I had originally planned to spend on a snake in anothe order. So now, I am short a snake and don't even have the money back to replace it. Also, since my husband and I will be leaving for vacation Thursday, I won't even be able to look for a replacement until after we get back.
He has offered me a 10% discount on a "future order" with his company, but to be totally honest, I am so ticked off that I have no intention of ever making a purchase from "his" company.
~Beau
I don't know if I am going to post a BOI or not, but I used money I had originally planned to spend on a snake in anothe order. So now, I am short a snake and don't even have the money back to replace it. Also, since my husband and I will be leaving for vacation Thursday, I won't even be able to look for a replacement until after we get back.
He has offered me a 10% discount on a "future order" with his company, but to be totally honest, I am so ticked off that I have no intention of ever making a purchase from "his" company.
~Beau
It was a credit card purchase, but the money was ~just~ refunded to my account (literally 2 minutes ago). However, it is less about the money to me, as it is about common decency. I tried calling him yesterday and today on both his cell phone and his business phone (and sent emails) but he didn't answer my calls. HOWEVER, when I sent his number to my sister via text, she immediately texted me back to let me know he answered her call on the first ring.
More to the point, I specifically called him before the purchase to make sure the snake was still available and he says he just "forgot" to let me know (for 2 days while he ignored my calls and emails) that the snake had sold.
Furthermore, I would like to know what he will be doing in the future to prevent this kind of thing from happening again. I find it difficult to believe that his inventory system (which removed the snake from the site the moment I purchased it) isn't somehow connected to whatever system the employee used.
All in all, it isn't how I would expect a reputable business to be run. If the situation were reversed and he had purchased one of my snakes, I would be bending over backwards to apologize and try to make this right. Of course, some people see it as "only a corn snake" and don't consider it a "big deal" because their other snakes are so much more expensive....
~Beau
More to the point, I specifically called him before the purchase to make sure the snake was still available and he says he just "forgot" to let me know (for 2 days while he ignored my calls and emails) that the snake had sold.
Furthermore, I would like to know what he will be doing in the future to prevent this kind of thing from happening again. I find it difficult to believe that his inventory system (which removed the snake from the site the moment I purchased it) isn't somehow connected to whatever system the employee used.
All in all, it isn't how I would expect a reputable business to be run. If the situation were reversed and he had purchased one of my snakes, I would be bending over backwards to apologize and try to make this right. Of course, some people see it as "only a corn snake" and don't consider it a "big deal" because their other snakes are so much more expensive....
~Beau
DLena
Corns are goram shiny!
Just checked in hoping to hear great news. So sorry this happened to you. When shops are brick and mortar as well as on-line, there should definitely be a way to verify inventory. And I'm with Dolly'sMom, your money and something more than a 10% future discount should have come your way almost immediately. Again, sorry about the snake; she was really nifty!
Thanks y'all! I appreciate the support!
DollysMom (and anyone else interested), I am going to go ahead and post the details of the transaction on the BOI tomorrow morning. Someone who's opinion I respect when it comes to business eithics, reminded me that the BOI is for every transaction, not just the "Good / Bad Guy" ones. It will be posted as an "Information" thread.
Night All!
~BeauBoi
DollysMom (and anyone else interested), I am going to go ahead and post the details of the transaction on the BOI tomorrow morning. Someone who's opinion I respect when it comes to business eithics, reminded me that the BOI is for every transaction, not just the "Good / Bad Guy" ones. It will be posted as an "Information" thread.
Night All!
~BeauBoi