First Post-Shed - Sunglow (maybe)

[SnakeAround]

But I do not appreciate to use a name, that has a different meaning when a different Genotype is in the game.

OK, you do think brighter is better, I saw after posting... but what do you mean with the above? What different genotype? Amel and sunglow have the same genotype...

Anyway, I'm curious why the first sunglow breeders would call a morph that should not HAVE to be bright sunGLOW ?

 

[Menhir]

I'd hesitate to call this one a sunglow, not very saturated/kraftiges orange background IMO...;
http://www.kornnatterlexikon.de/index.php?action=3&section=31&fid=110&page=12&buchstabe=19&alterx=0

This one has.... and it is bright...
http://www.kornnatterlexikon.de/index.php?action=3&section=31&fid=110&page=14&buchstabe=19&alterx=0

I don't want to blame you, cause you seem to be a little biased about my person - but that actually is the same animal under different light. So - I couldn't have given a better example by myself how relative "bright" is. Thank your for that one.

I did not mean, that Sunglows and Amels are genetically different but Amels and Amel Motleys. We all know what Motley does to Amels.
I will give you an example of what I mean. Let's say I bread normals with plain bellys and call them "Plainys". The thing is, the more red that plain belly is, the better. Okay? So - with the same logic of applying Sunglow to AmelMotleys, one could apply "Plainys" to every Motley that has a red belly. And when I ask you why you call a Motley a "Plainy" you answer, that the redder the better is part of the "Plainys" Definition and there is no pattern also of course.

Is it so hard to understand what I mean? Is my description hard to understand?

 

[Weebonilass]

Gorgeous snake! What a strange belly though. I'm not used to seeing that level of orange saturation on the belly of a non-blood. My amel mot has almost zero red/orange on the belly.

Roy,

This was gal was purchased through a pet store, who I think only buys his stuff from one breeder. I know the store has some bloods for sale (although they don't look like bloods to me, just appear to be normals). Do you think there might be some in her due that belly? The first part of the belly is white, but the second half is definitely the orange you see.

I'll have to stop by the store to see if there is such a possibility.

 

[Weebonilass]

It makes sense to me to call an Amel Sunglow when there is no white in an animal. But I see less sense in defining a new criterion of "brightness" connected with the same tradename "Sunglow". So, next question would be why this animal specifically is "SUNGLOW FOR SURE". It looks like a very nice Amel Motley to me, like a common Amel Motley that I called Amel Motley in the last years. So, I'm interested why some animals now change to be Sunglow Motleys were others are not.
It would make sense to me if these animals bred to a Sunglow would produce

Menhir,

Other than the first part of her belly being white, this little one has no white around her saddles. There are a couple of spots of a lighter orange, but I all but took a magnifying glass out in the bright light to verify that. In normal lightening you can't even see the couple of lighter orange spots.

That was originally what someone told me qualified her as a Sunglow, although they also stated that it was hard to classify some Sunglows as sunglows and not amels.

 

[Roy Munson]

Well Ginger, I'm no expert on mots, bloods, or anything else for that matter, so I don't know what to make of the belly. But since I have normals with no red saturation on their bellies, and some with major saturation, it wouldn't be surprising to me to see a wide variety in non-blood motleys. It's definitely a cool look, although I like a nice, stark white belly on a mot too.

Roy,

This was gal was purchased through a pet store, who I think only buys his stuff from one breeder. I know the store has some bloods for sale (although they don't look like bloods to me, just appear to be normals). Do you think there might be some in her due that belly? The first part of the belly is white, but the second half is definitely the orange you see.

I'll have to stop by the store to see if there is such a possibility.