Frosted Corns

[WestCoast_Redneck]

Nick, something like this? http://snakesnmoresnakes.blogspot.com/2008/02/photo-of-frosted-corn-snake.html

Now thats obviously frosted! Mine is definitely not.

 

[DMong]

Doug that could mark the difference between "pure" corns that show frosting via a loss of saddle pigment vs "frosted corns", gray rat/corn crosses that gained white pigment in the saddles

Yep,.......take your pick.....six or half-dozen?


~doug

 

[dave partington]

Portions of a pattern passed on in F1's. This leads me to suspect it is a trait, or more then a single gene at play. Guess I'm going to need a couple Frosted's to play with as well now. Razzlefrazzletootinfrootin enablers. Where do I sign up?

 

[chris68]

You may sign up here lol. I'm considering doing the same cross that produced Cent's amel, or shoot for a whole clutch of (hopefully ) frosted normals; pick your poison Dave...

 

[boricua00735]

This is my lavender who i had honestly not even noticed had frosted saddles until i saw this thread and was feeding her a couple of days ago.She looks more like the ghost doug pictured. Can any of the more experienced breeders tell me if something looks off? Or if its normal corn. I can provide better pics if needed.

 

[Carpe Serpentis]

What a coincidence, I might not like you either, but I agree with you agreeing with Nick that this needed to be said and repped. I'll do it now.

>>>Crape Spermintis, if you identify an available hybrid, I purchase and ship it to you at my cost, would you stop posting for at least 6 months or at the least, stop chiding in with your hydrid drivel everytime a post is made? "Hi everyone, I am new here and just wanted to show you the wc corn I found tonight" Enter Crape Spermintis..."Welcome to the forum, however, I am nearly certain that may or may not be a pure corn or pure hybrid. It is entirely possible the snake could have some vanishing leg lizard blood in it due to it's range or it is possible it has blood from a released het for wings grass snake. However, we would need to be certain it is a hybrid rather than conjecturing it may be a hybrid. There is a great difference between the two and I need to be sure which it is even though I can't be certain. See, we need to be able to know for sure if it is a pure or pure hybrid so that we can then decide how to properly hybridize it and I can prove to the world I know what i am talking about. Without the certain proof of the uncertain genetic make up.....uh, uh, what was I saying? Oh yeah, HYBRID HYBRID, pure HYBRID or possibly not pure HYBRID....hold on a sec, I need to swerve off the road and drive over that dead horse in the field". Welcome to the forum, I'll be glad to assist you in any way I can. BTW, do not and I repeat DO NOT spank your child, they may grow up to be a rapist, thief, non moving traffic violator or possibly even a hybridizer of snakes using known hybrids rather than starting with pure non hybrids. Thank you and that is all, you may return to your homes and fields now. Or in the immortal words of Huckleberry Hound..."Break it up son, break it up."

BTW, I bet if you took me up on my offer (of course Rich would have to agree to lock your account for 6 months), I am betting the community here would chip in to buy enough to "silence" your for more than a year. What'ya say Crape?

Jesus Christ man, give it a freaking rest, I have been irritated with lots of members on here as I am sure several have been irritated with me, but you take the cake brother. You seem to take pleasure in hijacking nearly every thread that you post on, you rarely add any worthwhile content, you just antagonize. Wow, how pitiful it must be to only get your enjoyment from irritating others.

Ok, I hadn't posted in several months so I m back to my hole.

dc

I just wanted to see how long someone could get away with leaving a post up that clearly denigrates another. I get it that you and many don't like my personal views. Making personal attacks however, not so much.

 

[AliCat37]

Considering that the admins had given clear warnings AFTER that post...

 

[DMong]

This is my lavender who i had honestly not even noticed had frosted saddles until i saw this thread and was feeding her a couple of days ago.She looks more like the ghost doug pictured. Can any of the more experienced breeders tell me if something looks off? Or if its normal corn. I can provide better pics if needed.

I wouldn't worry about that snake necessarily having any hybrid influence simply because of the "frosting"/stippling in the interior of the saddle blotchings. I've had a number of lavenders and other types have a very substantial amount of that.

Here is a young lavender that doesn't seem to have any at all to speak of.

As it got a bit older, the stippling/frosting seemed to come in and get more pronounced as well.

As it was fully mature breeding a wild Brevard County corn "Big Bertha"

A grand parent to the above snake displaying some substantial stippling/frosting

Here is a grand parent that has even far more.

 

[boricua00735]

Thanks doug that is what i was looking for. If she did have all that frosting in her saddles before her last shed i sure didnt notice it before. I hope she looks half as good as yours. She looks just like the baby you posted but i cant photograph to save my life a nice camera would help lol.

 

[Susan]

I just wanted to see how long someone could get away with leaving a post up that clearly denigrates another. I get it that you and many don't like my personal views. Making personal attacks however, not so much.

Just am FYI, posts are not deleted by moderators unless they are spam, classifieds by non-Contributing members or full of profanity (and sometimes, we simply edit out the profanity, depending upon the specific post). Otherwise, they all stay as the site's owner does not want this forum to be like some others where posts by other members have been edited or deleted unethically.

 

[DMong]

Thanks doug that is what i was looking for. If she did have all that frosting in her saddles before her last shed i sure didnt notice it before. I hope she looks half as good as yours. She looks just like the baby you posted but i cant photograph to save my life a nice camera would help lol.

You're very welcome!

Yes, yours is a fine little lavender and it will only get better and better. Thanks for the kind words regarding the one's I posted. Some of my pics aren't so great either.....but it got the illustration across okay.

By the same token though, different lighting conditions and the multitude of different camera settings for each situation can often be a pain even WITH a good camera .. :laugh:


cheers, ~Doug

 

[DMong]

Oh, BTW!,..yes, yours looks JUST like the one I posted as a youngster for sure!!.. :cheers:


~Doug

 

[boricua00735]

Thanks bud i really appreciate it. Fingers crossed it looks similar to yours at maturity

 

[Camby]

I just wanted to see how long someone could get away with leaving a post up that clearly denigrates another. I get it that you and many don't like my personal views. Making personal attacks however, not so much.

I am planning on blocking you after this post, I just have too much stuff going on to bother with reading your posts anymore. Heck, what do you want, people have nicely asked you on several occasions to stop continuously posting the hybrid dribble and it has been ignored.

See responses below concerning my post and it being not being deleted. For the record, I took my lumps from the Mod Squad and I knew it was coming, but honestly I had enough of seeing the same thing over and over from you. At least you and I know where we stand with one another now right? Regarding my comment to Bethany, I really have no issues with her, I was making a blind point that she didn't need to make the statement " I may not like you...". In my opinion, it didn't need to be said publicly, she could have just posted "I agree with you Nick" and left out the "snide" remark towards him. The later is just my opinion though. Armed with that and quarter, you still have $.25 right? You don't really need to answer that.

In actuality, I consider your repetitive "I see a hybrid", "I love hybrids" or some similar hybrid post, as a personal attack. My response to you is not really much different than the majority of your posts. You are showing a total lack of disrespect to many of the OP when they do not invite your hybrid comments nor does the topic warrant them, but you still hijack the thread with your repetitive comments. Again, I am blocking you as has been recommended, so I will not see your response, but how are you any different from me? Isn't it a bit hypocritical to whine about me attacking you personally yet you continue to ruin thread after thread when you know what you are saying has no bearing (most of the time) and is unwanted?

I am not arguing with you now, I am making a point...Hello Kettle, I am the pot!

dc

 

[BloodyBaroness]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Camby again.

I owe you one brother.

 

[airenlow]

Got him for you, Autumn!

 

[Ayidah]

I read the whole thread and am even more confused now about what a frosted corn is and is not, haha. So is that considered a frosted snake or just a Normal corn snake? She is 1 year old (according to the seller) and already 3ft long.

 

[hypnoctopus]

She is a normal corn snake, with a bit of frosting on her saddles. There's always going to be variation within each morph, but normals especially can have quite a lot of variation and yours just happens to have some frosted saddles.

 

[chris68]

Frosted anery

 

[anerythristic/okeete]

what a large discussion