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gravid snow??? plz help...

Can't you seperate them?
Besides all the usual reasons not to cohabitate it must be causing her a lot of stress if she is going to lay eggs, she deserves a little peace and you could end up with an egg binding if she doesn't feel comfortable. I don't know why the male is still trying to mate with her, maybe he is just a stud? I think she would settle down in the laying box if you get him away from her for a while.
 
Ive tried to seperate them, but they have gotten used to eachother or something, I think theyre in love... when I seperate them or the last time she got out he got sooo depressed he started biting me (which he never does) and he stopped eating till he saw her again.... They get an attitude when seperated. Theyve been 2gether for over 12 yrs... She has had eggs with him in there b4, he actually protected the eggs last year, he bit me when I tried 2 take them out.... I think that taking her "love" out this close to her due date would stress her out even more...
 
The male's behavior (going off his food and biting) is very common for males during breeding season, and probably has nothing to do with him 'missing' the female.
It's very easy to assign human emotions to snakes, but they are just not complex enough to have emotions like humans do they do not feel 'love' or 'depression', believe me it's better to keep snakes seperate, just do a search on cohabitation and you will see some great reasons. If the female's health is important to you I hope you will give her the peace she needs during this sensitive time. If she's gravid she doesn't need the harassment and added stress of having to ward off his advances. If he won't eat put him in a different room where he can't smell the female and give him a little time, he'll be fine.
 
The biting is actually normal male behavior at this time too. I would seperate them immediately. As Jen said, this could be a cause of a great deal of distress for her. If she's exhibiting signs of stress which it sounds like she is i.e. not wanting to go in the egg box and being harassed by the male, I'd move him. My male would have tried to mate my female even when she obviously had no longer any interest in him. I had placed them together for a last mating attempt and she was obviously no longer willing. He still was though. I seperated them then and there.
 
I would agree, corns are not social creatures. It may look like they are "cuddling" up together in a hide, but they are each just really trying to get the best spot.
 
he has bitten me even when it wasnt breeding season, when they were seperate... I have to disagree with you, I am sorry, but I think that they are better together... she has laid a successful clutch last year and the years b4 with him in there...
 
Magicwhisper said:
he has bitten me even when it wasnt breeding season, when they were seperate... I have to disagree with you, I am sorry, but I think that they are better together... she has laid a successful clutch last year and the years b4 with him in there...
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I guess you couldn't possibly be wrong, could you?
 
MagicWhisper said:
Last year when she had her clutch it was a complete surprize to me, I just found eggs in the tank one night, so this will b my first official breeding... lets hope I did it right
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Magicwhisper said:
I have to disagree with you, I am sorry, but I think that they are better together... she has laid a successful clutch last year and the years b4 with him in there...
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(emphasis mine.)

These two statements seem to contradict, unless last year's "surprize" clutch was not these snakes' first clutch with you. But this would beg the question: if she clutched from him in year(s) previous to last year, why was last year a surprise?

At any rate, why would you acknowledge that you are inexperienced in your opening post, but disregard the advice of experienced keepers on a later page? If you're going to rely on the accuracy of your inexperienced conclusions, why ask for advice at all? :shrugs:
 
You are misunderstanding me completely... first off... I know that I could b wrong... and secondly, I adopted these snakes from a close friend of mine, last year...who had them together ever since they were about 2... a few months after I adopted them she stopped eating, freaked me out and then one day there were eggs in the tank... I took them out and incubated them. B4 last breeding season I had no intention of breeding snakes... then when I watched the babies hatch last year I fell instantly in love, with everything. I knew that this is what I wanted to do.
I know that I am a beginner, thats why I am asking questions. But I also know that I have never had problems with keeping snakes 2gether, & neither did their previous owner.

I am not disregarding nething, nor am I disagreeing. i am debating this issue... I do value the opinions of others, unlike u might think. Plus, I do not have a spare tank big enough 4 him @ the moment.
 
Magicwhisper said:
You are misunderstanding me completely... I adopted these snakes from a close friend of mine, last year...
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I get it. Thanks for clearing that up. :)

Magicwhisper said:
But I also know that I have never had problems with keeping snakes 2gether, & neither did their previous owner.
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Well, there's a first time for everything, they say-- and it's true. As the male has matured, maybe his sexual advances have become more aggressive. Maybe this is the first year that it really started stressing out your female while she is pre-lay. Why take the chance of killing her? Are you more afraid of your male dying of love-sickness or your female dying of egg-binding? Do the right thing.
 
I think I will have eggs w/i the next 24 hours or so... She shed Monday, and today for the first time in a week, she went into the egg box and started digging... should I watch her tonight? Do you think she'll lay tonight? What will happen if I leave the eggs in overnight in the vermeculite without the incubator? (just in case I miss her clutching if I fall asleep ...??)
 
If she's digging a spot she's probably ready. Mine took about 10 hours or so to deposit all her eggs, so you could easily take a nap and not miss anything. You're not going to remove them until she's done anyway.
 
hey magicwhisper i understand how you feel about housing your snakes together, as i have had my snakes for 6 years and they've been in the same Viv since day one.
However since discovering this site a couple of days ago, i have learnt that keeping corn snakes in the same Viv is frowned upon (upon might be spelt wrong if so sorry, just woken up) by many corn snake breeders, i have recently had my male fit and my female fit twice, the cause of the fits are still unsure but i have also noticed before the fits, jerky movement, spasms (again that might be spelt wrong) if you like, if you experience this i highly recommend splitting the snakes up as i am going to after receiving such good advice.
trust me you don't want your snakes to 'fit' i think the reason for the fitting could be him stressing her out during breeding season (as the jerky movement is a sign of stress) of them both consuming a bit of substrate within the same month, but really I've no idea!!!!
going by what Roy says I've noticed this year my male seems more aggressive than ever he chases her for ages around the Viv knocking over my lovely plants, she gives as good as she gets.
i woke up this morning and found my female lying in the egg laying box, he was laying on the lid looking into the egg box, so i took him off and took the box out, could see no eggs from underneath so i uncovered her she's gone very pale due to have her pre-lay shed can somebody please tell me how long after the pre-lay shed could i be expecting eggs as I've never really noticed the pre-lay shed.
And after stumbling across this sit i have become all the more interested about the behaviour of my own snakes.
thank you very much!!!
 
the only one Ive noticed doing that, every once in a while is one of the babies... now that I know what that is, I will seperate them. i had no idea. I didnt intend to stress them out in any way. I love all my little babies... I'll buy a new tank right away. (the older ones dont do that, except for mating season...) *(Juliet is still digging around I think shes about ready... )???? :shrugs:
 
mine's also due to have her pre-lay shed, she's already laid her first clutch back in April there due to hatch on the 11th of June.

soo exciting!!!!!!
 
hi littleone
Congratulations on your eggs and the next lot that will soon appear :)
laying is usually within a couple of weeks after pre-shed

good luck

Hi Magic
I'm glad your going to seperate them, it is for the best and you little fella will soon get used to being alone. Your female on the other hand will be over the moon lol peace at last.

Good luck with your eggs, let us know how she gets on!

isobel
 
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