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Green "bruise" on dead snake? ;_; Help?

Incandescent, I'm sorry for your loss. You didn't cause the baby's death in the short time you had the little one in your care. The greenish spot you saw appears in all corns after they die. It's not diagnostic in any way, unfortunately.

What's being done about replacing your lost snake? Did the breeder give you any kind of health guarantee? Short of bashing the snake in the head or putting it through some serious physical trauma such as extreme temperatures or electrocution there's just no way that you caused the animal's death. I don't mean to say that the breeder knowingly sold an animal with a problem; sometimes young ones die seemingly suddenly for no reason we can figure out. Still, the animal was in your care for a tiny smidgin of time and it died. I'd personally be very observant of the others, particularly the one from the same source. There may be some problem there.

Don't give up on the forum. It's a great place to learn and to have fun, and there are many people here who are passionate about the animals' welfare. Sadly, the passion sometimes comes across more harshly via text than it's intended.

Again, condolences for your loss.
 
I probably would have sulked for a while and lurked without posting while trying to figure out answers to my questions through Search-Bar Yoga (the process of entering almost-identical-but-slightly-different-from-last-time criteria and hoping the gods of Google will produce a relevant article for once).
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Just had to say that is probably the best way I have ever heard the search function described!
 
Natalie, sorry for your loss. You did a great job communicating with us in all your posts. You stated from the start that you knew the few hours together was going to someones' goats. Give us a fair shake here and I am sure you will find that most of the people here are very honest, down to earth, and caring. This is a tight group of snake lovers and we always want to help, even if the advice may come out a bit harsh.

I too will have to agree that you did not kill that snake. Something was wrong, be it from the breeder, life itself, or a temperature issue. I just cant believe you throw the sweetie against a wall. If the lil one was not well established before that show, the stress of travel and being on a table with tons of vibrations and activity going on, it could have sent it over the edge of no return.

Did the breeder offer any guarantee of health or live animal for 7 days? Just asking.

Good Luck and Welcome to CS.com
PJ
 
The breeder didn't give a guarantee at the time that I bought the snake, but then again, I didn't ask. When I told him what happened, he offered (unprompted) to replace the snake with a '10 hatchling or give me credit toward another purchase. Actually, he offered more in credit than I paid for the snake. I told him it reflected very well on him, and that I'd likely shop from him in the future, but that since it was likely my fault, I didn't want him to have to shoulder the financial responsibility.

He said it was likely caused by overheating, so it's possible that I was responsible. I don't yet have a dimmer to regulate the temperature of the UTH, so I've just been turning it on-and-off manually every hour or so in an attempt to straddle that fine line between "warm" and "hot." As I said, there's a fair bit of condensation on the inside of the tanks (the water bowls are above the UTH), so I thought it might be too hot. I'm going to try to find a light dimmer or a regulatory power strip after class this evening.
 
Agreed - sounds like that's a great seller and you're doing all the right things. Good job, and sorry for your loss.
 
I am so very so for your loss. I know it is totally heartbreaking.
Sorry for my lack of post but I just have a few minutes but I wanted to pop on here quickly because I thought I read you worked at Petsmart. (I don't have time to go back) but nonetheless Petco and Petsmart both definitely carry a thermostat in their reptile section. That is what you need to control your heat pad, also a digital thermometer, also in the reptile section, for the temperature readout so that you can regulate it.
 
Thermostats are expensive, but are a great and necessary investment for regulating heat pads. The dimmer can work too if you set it up right, but it won't auto-regulate itself and you'll still have to manually control the amount of power going to the heatpads. Do you have digital thermometers? I would probably consider getting a few and putting them in the tanks, or getting a temp gun. That way you know exactly what the temperature is, so even if you're having to turn the pads on/off manually you have a better idea of what needs to be done rather than doing it by feeling the heat. I think there's another post on here somewhere about decent temperature guns you can order for around $30 or so. You can pickup some relatively inexpensive digital thermometers at just about any pet store. Just don't get the dial thermometers or the color stick on tape thingies. Get the digital ones with a probe so you can measure exactly where the heat is.

Also, regardless of what ultimately caused the snake's death, I have to commend you on accepting the responsibility that it might have been your fault. Very few people would decline the breeder's offer of a new snake or refund for any reason.... in all honesty, I probably wouldn't decline it. So what I'm saying is, you're a better person than I am. :D
 
I think one of the concerns here is that, if the snake died of an infectious disease, the snake it was cohabitating with could also have the infectious disease. You could lose it, and any other snakes that have contact with contaminated items like unwashed hands.

For the record, cohabitation leads to problems, but what's done is done.

Keep the surviving snake quarantined for awhile to prevent spreading mites or diseases to any other snakes in your household.
 
The snakes were from the same breeder, so if one had something, the other probably did too, so cohabbing them wasn't an issue of passing disease. A third snake was purchased at the same time and I think she already had one. Yes, definitely quarantine all remaining snakes.

But...she already knows all this, as well as the cohabbing is bad thing....she knew that before she did what she thought she had to do at the time.
 
The breeder definitely sounds like the sort of ethical professional we all want to deal with. Kudos to him, and to you Natalie for the way you both handled this sad issue.

When things get settled I hope you post pictures of your new babies. We love pictures!
 
I just wanted to say I'm so sorry about your snake. Also, I've had good luck with finding a lamp dimmer at home depot (I am Canadian, so perhaps its a different chain out your way...)
this is the exact thing:

http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/...Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber

they work great. You need a thermometer, digital is better, and still quite affordable. I use these, and I get them from walmart for 7$ and they work like a charm. I couldnt find them on the walmart site, but here they're with the household thermostats in the store.

http://www.amazon.com/National-Geographic-Outdoor-Digital-Thermometer/dp/B000SAM67M

I hope this helps a little, good luck! :)
 
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