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Green corn snakes

Chip said:
And CO, by definition, leucism is a genetic mutation that results in the absence of all color pigment.
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Here is a short quote by Don at SMR speaking of Texas leucistic rat snakes,

"Approximately 20% of all I have produced over the year will have one or two randomly located color spots on them. Not to the extent of the Palmetto."

Leucistic animals can clearly have random spotting. This is one of the reasons some think the palmetto is simply a leucistic gene that develops many random color spots.
 
Kinda far fetched but what if a freak breeding occurred (or was man-made by artifical insemination) between a red-tailed green rat and a corn? Could the resulting offspring that more resembled corns and were the greenest be selected and line bred to create an eventual mostly corn appearing green snake? Just a crazy thought
 
There is a high possibility of that happening, however if it was done in a proper lab and red tailed rat snake and a corn snake were artificialy reproduced. It would mean that the outcome wouldn't be a corn or rat snake anymore, it would be something in between. Additionally we don't know whether crossing the DNA of those two species would have an affect on any other parts of the snake as the process would be left to develop on its own.

Rat snakes and corn snakes are also said to be very similar and lab breeding if corn snakes has been done before but only with corn snakes that's how now we get so many different colors of corns. But cross breeding corn and rats is something yet not discovered and maybe shouldn't be
 
Even so you would need acces to a lab which if you haven't got a friend or some connection can be very tricky
 
I heard it can be done , if they decide to breed together or the bigger snake does not try to eat the little snake and then you would have hybrids, :) Idk I just looked it up and read it so I could be wrong.
 
I guess it can be done naturally but then there is the problem whether the female will have problems due to the mix in DNA and yes we don't know whether the rat will the corn or not
 
Given that Red-Tailed Green Rat Snakes are Asian and Corns are Northern American, I believe that the actual differences between them are much more fundamental than you'd find with two North American related species such as Corns and Grey Ratsnakes. I don't think (although I stand ready to be corrected) that anyone has successfully hybridised Asian and North American rat snake species. Pretty much the only things they have in common are the common name "Rat Snake" and both being Colubridae.
 
bitsy said:
I don't think (although I stand ready to be corrected) that anyone has successfully hybridised Asian and North American rat snake species.
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Neither have I heard of such rat snake hybrid.

But african and asian phytons have been hybridized.
 
kinda green-ish, this girl is from Walter her mother is more mature and has a more green appearance. We will be seeing what she can make of green babies this year. :)
 

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loyalsissaly84 said:
I heard it can be done , if they decide to breed together or the bigger snake does not try to eat the little snake and then you would have hybrids, :) Idk I just looked it up and read it so I could be wrong.
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I've heard it can be done as well with some asian rats to corns.... not sure if that particular hybrid has been attempted, but nothing ventured nothing gained. I'd definitely love to see a bright green and red corn snake hybrid.
 
Not sure I'd like a Corn hybrid with the temperament of a Red-Tailed Green Rat though! The ex-b/f had a pair and they were *not* happy in captivity. Gloves were standard for handling and you had to watch out for face strikes as well.
 
I mean of course they wouldn't be full corns, a true green corn would never be possible. I'm just saying it would be very interesting to see what that hybrid would be like, as with any comes the possibility of genetic flaws, but we would never know if it is never tried. I wouldn't be too surprised if a breeding somehow did occur but the eggs weren't viable(this happened with my red blood python and ball python) but just fun to let the imagination run and the hypothetical end result being a green saddled mostly corn-appearing snake with a yellow background. I know alot of people don't care for hybrids, but I think the possibility is intriguing
 
Bitsy, I agree with your sentiment about temperament. I don't think it would be a worth while venture unless one also took the time to breed for temperament. Anything worth doing is worth doing right.

MindseyeExotics, I think a lot more people like hybrids than let on. Given the general atmosphere and the more outspoken nature of most of those who are against hybrids... I feel that probably has a silencing affect on many who might otherwise speak up in favor of hybrids. Just my personal opinion though.
 
Does anyone know what happened to what I believe were a pair of ultramel charcoals with high green/yellow in the neck region? I can't remember when I saw them, but it would be cool to know if that was inheritable.
 
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