Growth spurts?

[AuralayKristine]

Hey everyone,

Thanks for the advice on my last post! I'm happy to say Kaven has successfully shed (even if he wasn't thrilled about soaking in the water for half an hour) and the abrasion on his nose is almost gone.

I had a question, though: I went to feed him tonight, and he seemed significantly larger. He just finished up his shed a week ago; has anyone ever noticed accelerated growth after a shed?

I could just be imagining it, of course, but I thought since people here were so nice last time I'd pop in and ask.

Thanks!!

Laura

 

[Roy Munson]

No, I haven't noticed it. That's because it doesn't happen. You ARE imagining it. Continue feeding prey that are less than 1.5 the snake's girth.

 

[Thuri]

Um, she didn't mention changing prey size, just asked if anyone had noticed a size change after a shed...

 

[Roy Munson]

Um, she didn't mention changing prey size, just asked if anyone had noticed a size change after a shed...

Um, she seemed to be implying that the snake grew significantly between shed and the next feeding a week later. Um, read her post again. Um. This can't happen. Um. Um.

 

[AuralayKristine]

I actually never said I was planning on changing his food. I weigh him on occasion and monitor his activity after feeding, and I'll change his food when his weight and size reflect the need. Kaven is my first corn and I'm not familiar with growth patterns yet, so I was simply asking. I'm trying to learn as much as I can so I can give him the best care possible.

 

[AuralayKristine]

Perhaps I wasn't clear. First, he finished a shed AND ate about a week ago. His feeding tonight is the SECOND since his shed.

Secondly, I didn't say he suddenly became the incredible Hulk or anything, only that I'm noticing growth and wondered if shedding had any effect on said growth.

I'm sorry if my questions are stupid ones, but I am very new to this, as I mentioned, and simply want to learn as much as I can so as to facilitate the highest level of care for the animal. My first post here was met with friendliness and good advice. I'm less impressed the second go round.

 

[Thuri]

Um, she seemed to be implying that the snake grew significantly between shed and the next feeding a week later. Um, read her post again. Um. This can't happen. Um. Um.

Wow.

You know, I'd only ever had good experiences on this board until now, but wow.

I didn't imply she was right in saying he'd grown significantly in a week. I didn't imply that it was or was not possible.

All I implied was that perhaps you didn't need to jump down her throat over an issue she hadn't even brought up. While I share your concern that she not overfeed her snake, I think there would've been kinder ways to ascertain if that was even an issue.

And I certainly don't think a rude attack on me, or my way of questioning your method was an appropriate response.

I sincerely hope you're having a bad day, because I'm regretting recommending people post here when they have questions, if this is the response honesty curiosity receives now.

You needn't reply to this, because I certainly don't intend to take it any further.

But wow.

 

[Roy Munson]

I actually never said I was planning on changing his food. I weigh him on occasion and monitor his activity after feeding, and I'll change his food when his weight and size reflect the need. Kaven is my first corn and I'm not familiar with growth patterns yet, so I was simply asking. I'm trying to learn as much as I can so I can give him the best care possible.

Who the heck said that you planned on changing his food? I was just giving a little precautionary advice. Now I remember why I don't usually bother dispensing advise to those who ask nonsensical questions. Did you think your snake was a tube of Pillsbury crescent rolls, ready to "pop" to larger dimensions after shed? Without an influx of calories, how would your snake able to pull off this "growth spurt"?

I gave you a real answer. I'm super-familiar with corn growth patterns.

 

[AuralayKristine]

Who the heck said that you planned on changing his food? I was just giving a little precautionary advice. Now I remember why I don't usually bother dispensing advise to those who ask nonsensical questions. Did you think your snake was a tube of Pillsbury crescent rolls, ready to "pop" to larger dimensions after shed? Without an influx of calories, how would your snake able to pull off this "growth spurt"?

I gave you a real answer. I'm super-familiar with corn growth patterns.

Well, given you told me not to, I assumed you thought I planned to, so I wanted to clarify I'm not going to change his food based on what I think I see.

I don't appreciate my question being called nonsensical. And no, I do not think he grew without an intake of calories. As I thought I clarified, I fed him after he shed. It's a week later. I noticed growth. I was simply asking.

I'm sorry you feel the need to antagonize and condescend. I'm trying to learn, not start a war. And I'm sorry if I misinterpreted your original reply, but I don't think there's any misinterpreting this. You're being rude, and it's not appreciated.

Good day.

 

[Roy Munson]

Wow.

You know, I'd only ever had good experiences on this board until now, but wow.

Sorry to have burst your bubble.

I didn't imply she was right in saying he'd grown significantly in a week. I didn't imply that it was or was not possible.

No, you just used a little, condescending "um". Just because YOU didn't see any value in my advice doesn't mean it wasn't warranted.

All I implied was that perhaps you didn't need to jump down her throat over an issue she hadn't even brought up. While I share your concern that she not overfeed her snake, I think there would've been kinder ways to ascertain if that was even an issue.

I was blunt, but I didn't jump down her throat. I don't need to screen my replies through you to ensure that they are the "kindest" possible.

And I certainly don't think a rude attack on me, or my way of questioning your method was an appropriate response.

I considered your method of questioning to be rude. Maybe you should curb your "ums" if you can't take a rebuttal.

I sincerely hope you're having a bad day, because I'm regretting recommending people post here when they have questions, if this is the response honesty curiosity receives now.

Well, I guess we'll just have to shut this place down if you're going to withdraw your recommendations. :grin01:

You needn't reply to this, because I certainly don't intend to take it any further.

I'll be the judge of what I need to reply to. But I'm glad you're not going to take it any further. You never had a leg to stand on to begin with.

But wow.

But nothing...

 

[Roy Munson]

Well, given you told me not to, I assumed you thought I planned to, so I wanted to clarify I'm not going to change his food based on what I think I see.

Thanks for the clarification. But remember that my advice was given prior to this clarification, and it was given in your snake's best interest.

I don't appreciate my question being called nonsensical. And no, I do not think he grew without an intake of calories. As I thought I clarified, I fed him after he shed. It's a week later. I noticed growth. I was simply asking.

Well, I guess it was only nonsensical from the viewpoint of someone who has raised hundreds of corn hatchlings. A week's growth wouldn't be noticeable, so I stand by my original (if blunt) statements.

I'm sorry you feel the need to antagonize and condescend. I'm trying to learn, not start a war. And I'm sorry if I misinterpreted your original reply, but I don't think there's any misinterpreting this. You're being rude, and it's not appreciated.

Puh-leeze. We're not talking about your mother's weight or your value to the human race. Maybe a few more people will reply, and you'll see that those who know what they are talking about will share my opinions (if not my methods of conveying those opinions). This isn't carebears.com.

 

[ghosthousecorns]

To the OP... I have noticed 'growth spurts' in my snakes, not necessarily right after a shed but have noticed snakes that were growing at a steady 5 grams between weighings when weighed at regular intervals, suddenly put on like 15 grams in the same amount of time, especially when it has been switched to a larger feeder size (pinky to fuzzy or the like)

 

[sammythesnake]

I have to have noticed growth spurts in my snakes to. kind of amazing if you ask me how fast they grow.

 

[AuralayKristine]

Thank you. I appreciate your reply.

 

[sammythesnake]

your very welcome.

 

[funnynonsense]

ROY -I don’t think you haven’t handled this well at all.

I don’t think anyone was attacking you.
I think everyone on these forums respects your advice above most others.

You have come across as very rude - and I'm actually surprised to have seen it. You blew this way out of proportion, and hopefully you haven't put the OP off posting again.

Try see the best in people Roy -

 

[TWGarland]

well said FunnyNonsense, i think so too

 

[Roy Munson]

ROY -I don’t think you haven’t handled this well at all.

I don’t think anyone was attacking you.
I think everyone on these forums respects your advice above most others.

You have come across as very rude - and I'm actually surprised to have seen it. You blew this way out of proportion, and hopefully you haven't put the OP off posting again.

Try see the best in people Roy -

I don't disagree with you. I DID blow it way out of proportion. I didn't intend for my first reply to be as blunt as it read. It could have used a couple of emoticons. I meant it to be sort of playful, which is why I think I was overly defensive about the "um" stuff. If I had added some emoticons, I think the whole situation would have been much different:

No, I haven't noticed it. That's because it doesn't happen. :grin01: You ARE imagining it. Continue feeding prey that are less than 1.5 the snake's girth.

Oh well, I'm not perfect. I hope that AuralayKristine will not hold this series of judgemental errors against me and I hope she will enjoy being a member of this site. And I hope she will accept my sincere apologies.

 

[AuralayKristine]

I don't disagree with you. I DID blow it way out of proportion. I didn't intend for my first reply to be as blunt as it read. It could have used a couple of emoticons. I meant it to be sort of playful, which is why I think I was overly defensive about the "um" stuff. If I had added some emoticons, I think the whole situation would have been much different:



Oh well, I'm not perfect. I hope that AuralayKristine will not hold this series of judgemental errors against me and I hope she will enjoy being a member of this site. And I hope she will accept my sincere apologies.

Accepted with gratitude and relief. Thank you, and I'm sorry I misinterpreted your original intent.

*erases event from memory*

 

[Thuri]

And I would like to apologize for my "um" as I can see how it could've been seen as condescending. Please believe me, it wasn't meant that way. It was meant as an "you're the mod, and the expert, and I'm hesitant to speak up, but" sort of thing, but as this has so clearly shown, inflection is everything and sadly missing in text.