Nanci
Alien Lover
LOOKS female??? You'd better verify that before you purchase a male...
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Hypo lavender bloodred?
- Thread starter acbaro
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LOOKS female??? You'd better verify that before you purchase a male...
Yea her eyes are dark but when the light is shining you can see the ruby pupil with the blue ring. And they probed her and she came back a girl.. Also I have a book from bill and Kathy love and they show images of the tails and how the size difference can some what verify the sex although not 100%. If there is someone around my area or would like to meet up at underground reptiles one day ill be more thn happy to show her off... I definitely have plans down the road to breed her, anyone have any ideas as to what would be the perfect match for her? I also have a normal motley who I used the tail technique with a came to the conclusion she's female to so I definitely need a male in my collection but would like to focus on getting some crazy babies out of the lav!
airenlow
hope is not a strategy
DMong
colubrid connoisseur
I agree,.....the eyes are pretty dark as well as the speckling to also be a hypo as well. Still, a nice lavender/bloodred (plasma) though.
I will say that it is often impossible to distinguish very dark hypo lavenders from very light lavenders,.....but it is doubtful it is a hypo in my opinion. And that as you know is because the hypo gene can vary anywhere between a 1 and a 10, just as in hypo corns, Hondurans, kingsnakes, boas, and just about everything else.
I have a light lavender that was "said to be" a hypo lavender as well, but through a breeding I did a while back, proved it to be a nice lavender het hypo/het anery. His parents were impossible to tell by looks alone too.
cheers, ~Doug
DragonsDenSerpents
Murphy's Guinea Pig
I've received blatantly missexed animals from Underground Reptiles before; I won't purchase from them anymore. I would get a verification on the sex.
DMong
colubrid connoisseur
Yeah, not surprising at all. I have seen many very misidentified snakes from there as well. They generally flip whatever someone "claims" their snakes to be that they acquire, or whatever they "think" it might be when one of the "experts" there look at it. I've seen them advertise in the past a perfect textbook-looking Mexican milksnake (L.t.annulata) as a freakin'L.t.polyzona before, as well as other crossed stuff as a very specific subspecies. Geez, that specimen wasn't even CLOSE to being a polyzona and was as pure a phenotype annulata as you could ever possibly find anywhere on the entire planet! What made the video advertisement even funnier to me is that you could see that the two employees had Markel's "Kingsnakes and Milksnakes" book laying open on the store counter just behind them like they were thumbing though it and "thought" they knew what subspecies it was by closing their eyes and going....."eenie-meenie-minie-mo,.....yeah!, it's this one here dude!!" :laugh:
There was another less than desirable experience a friend and I had there not long ago even though we already knew full-well what to expect there.
Anyway, there's no doubt you can get lucky there sometimes, but you'd better damn-well know something about the particular type of snakes you are looking into there and not put a ton of faith in what someone there simply tells you, or what a label reads. But heck, this is nothing new.....this is how the entire mainstream hobby is now........"buyer beware", or else you could be reaching into an assorted box of chocolates never knowing what type you grabbed...
~Doug
DMong
colubrid connoisseur
Yeah,....before this recent episode I hadn't been there or dealt with them since the early 90's. I did see Ryan there this time too though, and isn't there another dude named Ryan there too??
Me and my friend felt pretty weird going there to play "stupid", but the guy soon found out that we really knew our sh*** regarding milksnakes when we started riddling stuff off to him, as he watched us counting the red body rings and scrutinizing the snout and temporal bands, etc... Man, the whole thing was a flop, but we knew we had to go there to know if it was going to be a huge score, or a total flop.
Anyway, it was the latter... :nope:, but at least my buddy didn't get burned for like $900 bucks if he got all the hatchlings sight unseen. It was a crapshoot we just couldn't afford for someone else to get their hands on if they were what we thought they might be from one of the ad photos. Figures the ONE ad photo looked nothing like the rest of sibs, and was a horrible representation of what they were actually selling, so we didn't trust what the one "seemed" to look like since it allegedly came from the very same clutch as the others that DEFINITELY weren't what we came there to get. It could have been far worse, so it was still okay, just a waste of time and gas rather than a bunch of money luckily.
~Doug
jessicashallperish
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jessicashallperish
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this snake was just reposted on kingsnake today by underground reptiles