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Hypo Ultra & Hypo SK Ultra (World's first!)

RobbiesCornField

RobbiesCornField

Bring it on.
Last night was rather exciting for me, as I got to witness both my Ginger (Hypo Sunkissed Ultra) and Supernova (Hypo Ultra) shed for the first time! These are the first of each of their morphs, so watching them go from coated in egg yolk to freshly shed was quite awesome. I'm only assuming that these are the world's first, because I haven't seen any listing for their morph in any guide. They came from Hypo het Sunkissed Ultra parents, which is why I'm positive they're homo hypo. They will both be popped after they've had their first meal.



Up first is the world's first Ginger (Hypo Sunkissed Ultra)!

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And now the first Supernova (Hypo Ultra)!

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Thanks for looking!
 
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jessicashallperish said:
so crazy! the supernova is so bright it looks amel! lol
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That's why my fiance wanted to call them "Almost Amels". :laugh: I darn near thought Amel was a hidden het in the parents, until I looked at the belly and saw purple checks. No amel here!



Here's a Hypo Sunkissed sibling for comparison against the Ginger.

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There's that pretty little traffic cone. And since you've been so helpful, I hope you don't mind if I ask, what exactly does "homo" mean and what is "ultra?" Sorry, not trying to hijack, just a question so I can understand this new creation :)
 
Weda737 said:
There's that pretty little traffic cone. And since you've been so helpful, I hope you don't mind if I ask, what exactly does "homo" mean and what is "ultra?" Sorry, not trying to hijack, just a question so I can understand this new creation :)
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"Ultra" is a form of Hypo (Hypo D, if I remember correctly). It's origin has been long debated over whether or not it's a hybrid, but most people have conceded that it is pure corn. Hypo, Sunkissed, and Ultra are all different versions of "Hypo", or "Hypomelanism", which decreases the amount of melanin (black pigment), and enhances the erythrin (red pigment).

Now to the difference between "Homozygous" and "Heterozygous". When you see someone say that an animal is "het" for something, it means that the animal has that recessive gene, but is not showing it. So if someone says they have a "normal het amel", it means they have the genes to make an amel, if paired with another animal het for amel, or "homozygous" amel. "Homo/Homozygous" means that the trait is expressed. When people say they have a "lavender corn", it means they have a "homozygous lavender corn" (but that's way too long to say). When I said that I was positive they were "homo hypo", I meant that because both parents were homozygous hypo, it would not be possible for them to not express the hypo gene.

There are a couple of good books out there that will explain it FAR better than I can this late at night while I'm at work. Lol. Kathy Love's book has a wonderful genetics section that can get you started, and if you can track down a copy of the Corn Snake Morph Guide by Chuck Pritzel, that entire book is a wonderful wealth of genetic knowledge. So before I confuse you any further, definitely get out and give those a read! Haha
 
I have Kathy Love's book and have read it a couple times, I guess it just helps some of this stuff to stick if I hear it broken down with real examples. I know a lot of this that you told me...after I read it and I'm like "duh" I knew that lol. I wasn't sure of the meaning of "homozygous," so now I got that down. I have a hard time remembering some of these words are another form of hypo. Seems like with this genetic stuff one word can mean a combination of other words. It's just hard to keep it all straight in my head. Thank you. I'm going to look into that morph guide.
 
I would not have expected an Ultra Hypo to be so bright. And the Sunkissed Ultra Hypo as well... SO colorful. I really like the head patterns on Sunkissed's too. They seem to vary so drastically from one to another, and they always appear to be symmetrical from one half of the pattern to the other.
 
Weda737 said:
I have Kathy Love's book and have read it a couple times, I guess it just helps some of this stuff to stick if I hear it broken down with real examples. I know a lot of this that you told me...after I read it and I'm like "duh" I knew that lol. I wasn't sure of the meaning of "homozygous," so now I got that down. I have a hard time remembering some of these words are another form of hypo. Seems like with this genetic stuff one word can mean a combination of other words. It's just hard to keep it all straight in my head. Thank you. I'm going to look into that morph guide.
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It's all good. :) We've all been newbies at one point or another! You're in good company here. There are quite a few different forms of hypo. Off the top of my head:

Hypo A
Sunkissed
Ultra
Lava
Christmas
Strawberry
 
Dang it man, one hypo at a time lol. So I'm looking up this morph guide, I want it in print. Hard to find but blue frog exotics has it... never heard of them. I guess if I order with paypal it would be okay.
 
Michael823 said:
I would not have expected an Ultra Hypo to be so bright. And the Sunkissed Ultra Hypo as well... SO colorful. I really like the head patterns on Sunkissed's too. They seem to vary so drastically from one to another, and they always appear to be symmetrical from one half of the pattern to the other.
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That makes two of us! Haha! I believe Mitch provided a possible explanation in the original pippy thread. These guys were incubated for 91 days, at slightly cooler than normal temperatures. The long incubation has been known to alter color and pattern slightly. But whatever the case may be, the parents of these guys were Serpenco hypos (and incredibly bright ones at that), and I didn't expect anything less than stellar babies to come from them.
 
Weda737 said:
Dang it man, one hypo at a time lol. So I'm looking up this morph guide, I want it in print. Hard to find but blue frog exotics has it... never heard of them. I guess if I order with paypal it would be okay.
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Okay, forget that, way too expensive for shipping.
 
RobbiesCornField said:
There are digital copies available of every guide ever (for $20 total). Not a bad deal if you ask me.

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Don Soderberg's book would be a great one to own as well.

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Yeah, I'm mulling over the digital thing, I'd really like to print it out so I can read it whenever. All I have is my laptop and a dinosaur phone, no fancy portable reading gadgets like all the other 25 year olds that I work with have. :sobstory: So now I'll check out that link for Don's book.
 
Weda737 said:
Yeah, I'm mulling over the digital thing, I'd really like to print it out so I can read it whenever. All I have is my laptop and a dinosaur phone, no fancy portable reading gadgets like all the other 25 year olds that I work with have. :sobstory: So now I'll check out that link for Don's book.
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Buy the digital, print it, hole punch it, and put it in a binder! :p
 
RobbiesCornField said:
Buy the digital, print it, hole punch it, and put it in a binder! :p
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yeah yeah, I was thinking that too, haven't used my printer in a long time... kinda had to take it apart to rescue a little fence lizard my cat brought in. Wonder if it still works, I'll have to buy ink. So what are you planning to do with your two new creations? Breed them back?
 
Weda737 said:
yeah yeah, I was thinking that too, haven't used my printer in a long time... kinda had to take it apart to rescue a little fence lizard my cat brought in. Wonder if it still works, I'll have to buy ink. So what are you planning to do with your two new creations? Breed them back?
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Well they're definitely going to be keepers, but as far as future breedings... that's for me to know, and the world to find out. ;) The parents will DEFINITELY be bred again next year, because there needs to be more of these beauties in the world.
 
Nice, I feel special. I get to talk to all the big time corn snake breeders. Celebrities of the corn snake world. Later on when these are the next big thing, I'm gonna be all smug saying I remember when those first hatched out and I got to talk to the original breeder.
 
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