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I need a hug...anyone have a spare? ((venting))

Big ((((hugs)))), girlie.

Don't even get me started with rotten bosses and being under-appreciated.
Over-edumacated and under-paid has felt like the story of my life.
Supervisors resent you when you are more educated or smarter than they are.

I worked as a degreed professional (medical technologist) in a hospital for 12 years. Watching brown-nosers advance, while I (the only one of 2 or 3 among 100 in the lab with more than one college degree) was brow-beaten for thinking outside the box and daring to be more than a direction-following non-question-asking hospital lab robot.
There has been frustration and tears, over the years, and even a period in the mid to late 1990's when I became very very disillusioned, cynical, and depressed.

There are formal Corporate Psychology courses and seminars across the land, in which hospital (and other corporate) administrators are taught and groomed on everything from how to milk the most amount of work for the least amount of pay...to how to fire....to how to let employee morale ebb to such a low that by attrition people will become depressed and quit to seek work elsewhere...so that by that route 2 can be made to do the job that 3 once did. Depressing?...Yes. Real?...Yes. Does it have to ruin your life?...No.

I was 39 before, after a second career change, I found myself with some upward mobility indeed it was based on smarts, savvy, and how hard one worked. Now at 47 I have been in the position of being the/a boss for 5 years. And the greatest pleasure I take is doing for my employees all that was never done for me...and NOT doing all the mean things that WERE done to me.

Today there are good days and bad days, and ups and downs in my profession, but as one gets older and able to look over a larger period of time, the immediate things seem smaller in comparison.
 
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Don't even get me started with rotten bosses and being under-appreciated.
Over-edumacated and under-paid has felt like the story of my life.
Supervisors resent you when you are more educated or smarter than they are.

There See!!!!
 
No employee gets as much as they feel they should. If your employer is smart, he will pay you as much as is prudent. He can’t pay you $20 per hour if his competition is paying $10 per hour for their help. He would go broke and then you’d both be out of work. At the same time it is to his advantage to keep employees as long as possible because the do their job better. So with that in mind he should treat you as well as he can and still keep the company viable. I know it doesn’t always feel that way from your end.

I've been an employee and a boss too. This is right, except that unfortunately, some bosses miss the second part completely, they act like if the competition is paying $10 they can pay $9 and still keep their good employees.
 
I need a hug...anyone have a spare?

Oh Rosie, of course I do. ((((((((HUGS)))))))))))


:cheers: Here's to a brighter future.

Illegitimi non carborundum!!!!!
 
I've had an infuriating, soul-crushing, disgusting week of my own. I've worked at the same vampiristic giant corp for twenty years. Every day is better than the next.

*hug*
 
(((((((Oh what a bunch of whiney employees. I'll hug everyone.))))))))


OK, breaks over, get back to work.
 
So sorry to hear how you have been treated!

I did read it all, but unfortunately, other posters are correct, in my own experience, as well as what I have witnessed with friends and family. Although your company supposedly believes in ethics, it obviously does not extend to fair treatment of employees. Even if they can't afford to pay you what you are worth, they should base salary on relevant things such as length of service, responsibilities, and most importantly, your value to the company. In that way, your pay would relate in some logical way to other employees and whatever they bring to the company.

Since they won't even enumerate the exact ways in which you are supposed to "work really hard" to receive the elusive salary for your job title, they obviously are just trying to string you along. Unfortunately, your only logical recourse it to still work hard, do a good job, stay on good terms (for references) and GET A BETTER JOB ASAP! To let them know what idiots they are for chasing you away would only likely interfere with getting a good reference (Canada may be different than the US in the way references are given, since citizens there don't see to be as litigious as they are here). So you may have to forgo that pleasure.

As you become "older and wiser", you will probably become aware, as others have pointed out, that your treatment as employee is more the norm than the exception. That knowledge will enable you to realize that it is their problem, not yours, so that you won't let their mistakes or incompetence reflect on how you feel about yourself. That knowledge will also help you to recognize a REALLY GOOD employer should you be lucky enough to find one. Then you will know that it is time to really hang onto THAT job. In that case, you can thank your old employer for pointing out the difference between the "good" and the "bad".

So with all of that in mind, maybe you can try to look at this "soon to be ex job" in a new light - as an opportunity to learn a lot about business, management, and the work world in general. Look at it as a chance that came very early in your career life, so that you are much more able to face the next (and all future) jobs in a MUCH better, and more knowledgeable position than when you started this job. Yes - it's the old "find a silver lining in every cloud" idea - but sometimes it is actually true.

Wow - I think my "book" might be longer than yours, lol! Good luck!
 
I've had an infuriating, soul-crushing, disgusting week of my own. I've worked at the same vampiristic giant corp for twenty years. Every day is better than the next.

*hug*

Hugs to you too, babes...I was thinking of you when I read R's story. It's the unfortunate way of many companies...cut the staff and pile the work on those that are left. If they can do that much work, they can continue to do more and more. (((((Hugs))))) to you, too. xo
 
I read the whole thing, it really does suck though and it sounds like they are trying to take advantage of you because you are young. You have put so much effort into it and they don't appreciate you. Completely unfair but sometimes life just isn't.
My job wages are frozen, so nobody gets any raises. But I'm still really glad to have one right now. In this economy sometimes you have to think about how much worse not having a job is than having a bad one.
Write yourself a good resume, make sure to highlight that you were a manager and apply at a bunch of other places, but if they call you for an interview be sure and ask for what you are worth in salary. Then when you get a better job walk away from that place and don't look back. Don't think that just because you don't have a lot of experience people won't want to hire you. Companies want loyal employees that will stay there for a long time and if you have a lot of jobs it makes you look like a "job hopper"
 
*hugs* I'm so sorry you're having to go through this, that really sucks. I had some similar experiences at my old job and it was seriously such a relief when I was finally free. I won't go into everything I dealt with there or I'll be writing a novel too, lol, but I completely understand. I agree with Kathy that we are very lucky to learn these lessons at a young age. I was naive when I went into that job because I had the most AMAZING boss at my job before that. I never would have expected to be treated the way I was, so it was a big shock...but now I know what to look for in a boss in the future.

I've had a hell of a time trying to find a new job, and I was really, REALLY afraid to leave a job that I was at least familiar with, but in all honesty I still don't regret quitting in the least. There were times where I legitimately felt like I was being abused, and it was just so draining. I couldn't believe how much my anxiety levels dropped when it wasn't hanging over my head any longer. I will never forget the relief I felt a few days after I finally quit, when I woke up one morning and I realized that I wasn't afraid to check my phone to see what they were calling/emailing me about this time, and I wasn't dreading going to work later. I can't even describe how wonderful it was.

I hope you can find a new job soon. You sound like you would be an asset to all sorts of employers. I would be willing to bet that when you leave they'll miss your hard work a LOT. :)
 
Rosie, you know I’m just giving you a hard time right? I hope.

A good point has been brought up. I don’t know about Canada but good jobs are few and far between around here. Don’t burn any bridges you will regret. If possible, have a new job lined up before you move on. If at all possible, leave the present job on good terms.

Good luck.
 
Vote Republican! They represent the little guy. They'll help ensure that corporate overlords continue walking across the backs of the "proles" to acheive their highly ethical ends. They'll give an undeserving CEO a million to keep a poor person from scavenging a dime.

The world is justified at laughing at our two-conservative-party system.
 
Rosie, you know I’m just giving you a hard time right? I hope.

A good point has been brought up. I don’t know about Canada but good jobs are few and far between around here. Don’t burn any bridges you will regret. If possible, have a new job lined up before you move on. If at all possible, leave the present job on good terms.

Good luck.

No worries, Wade. I can take it. :grin01:

I know what your saying, and I've not really even made any decisions yet. I will for sure be looking for another job, but no one at work is even really aware I'm job hunting.
I know whatever -does- happen, I will leave on good terms. My co-workers are two of my best friends, I don't want to make life hard for them. If I were to cause a big mess, they'd feel akward about hanging out with me. :rolleyes:
Its a great reference, and looks great on paper. I need it to get another job. But I've been dreaming of what I could do if only I didn't have to take the high road. Dreaming is ok. Never got a bad reference because of my imagination no matter HOW vivid. ;)

I can't belive how all of you have reached out, in the short time I've been offline. Thanks to ALL of you for your words of wisdom and support. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.:p
Seriously, everyone. It means a lot to me. Thank You, from the bottom of my heart.

I always heard that people didn't want to hire teenagers because they were unreliable...they would always quit after a couple days. I was determined to prove that to be wrong, but its probably time for a change. I'm not a teenager looking to prove anything anymore, I suppose.
Kate, thanks SO much for pointing out the fear of a new job...however irrational. 5years is a long time, at least for me. Its going to be a big adjustment. I'm sure I'll cope...but its still intimidating.

One evil thought that keeps going through my mind is 'they can only ask me to train for the things they know I do'. There's a lot of stuff I've done automatically for a long time, that I'm not sure anyone else does...lol...just day dreaming...
 
...But I've been dreaming of what I could do if only I didn't have to take the high road. Dreaming is ok. Never got a bad reference because of my imagination no matter HOW vivid...

What a great attitude - you will do fine wherever you go, lol!! And your new employer will be lucky to get you!
 
well

First have another job lined up.....
Second dont train anyone,if you do you can be replaced.
Sorry to hear that and hangin there
Oh and BIG HUG!
 
We have a whole list of Values and Ethics where I work and they apply to everyone but the employees.

Several years ago, I offered to work a different shift for three months while a co-worker was going through mental health issues. When I went back on second shift, I lost my grandfathered $1.75 shift differential and went down the new $1.00 shift diff. No one said a bleeping word that I'd lose $.75 an hour after I helped those bastards out. I got screwed over when I tried to help out and I told my boss straight up, don't ask me to help out in the future, because the answer will be no. Imagine that, they were surprised I was angry. I told her you can mess with my hours and my work but don't ____ with my money. I still resent them for it, and I've worked there almost 18 years. I love my job, so I try not to think about the crap they've pulled.

Here's an idea, can you get some of your friends together to form your own co-op coffee house? Its a thought. I know you could do it. You've got so much going for you.
 
Rosie, as the kids these days say, THAT IS SOME BULLLLS----! You deserve to feel every bit as angry as you are and more! Is there any higher up you can complain about this?
 
I told her you can mess with my hours and my work but don't ____ with my money. I still resent them for it, and I've worked there almost 18 years. I love my job, so I try not to think about the crap they've pulled.

I know how you feel! My employer is doing this big Employee Engagement Survey where they ask questions like Do you feel our brand is trustworthy and Do you feel the person you report to treats you with respect and all these touchy-feely questions. At the end there is a space for you to fill in What is one thing this organization could do to make you happier at work, or something. More satisfied with your job. I wrote Give us a cost of living raise annually, separate from performance-based wage increases.

People say "Oh, it's just money, what is more important is your job satisfaction" and that is kind of BS. The more expensive everything gets, and the more our salaries keep dropping, by virtue of the cost of living going up and us not receiving compensation to match that, the harder it gets to survive! As our relative earnings drop, we have to cut out more and more luxuries, and that makes us angry! A better approach to save money for the company is to have satisfied, happy employees who _want_ their employer to succeed, who will take extreme measures to cut costs, to look for ways to save the company money, rather than taking a hit in their own pocketbook for the sake of cost-savings.
 
People say "Oh, it's just money, what is more important is your job satisfaction" and that is kind of BS.

I've heard that line before. My response is "job satisfaction doesn't pay for the gas it takes to drive me to work". I sometimes wish I had the guts to say it, and then some. However, like Rosie, I am trying to save face until I can find something else and at least attempt to leave on good terms.

As nice as it sounds to just love my job, I still need to pay for my student loans, house bills, car bills, vet bills, food, etc. Isn't that the part of the point (if not the whole point) of joining the workforce? To offset these costs of living? If I wanted to starve without a house, car, education, or pets... why bother with coming to work at all?

At my workplace, the issue is that we keep being told by the owner that there is no money to go around for raises and whatnot, and he'll even go as far as to say that he's feeling the pinch as well. But somehow this year he has been gone for weeks (months) at a time to go skiing, when last year it was just a weekend here or there. At least, that's what he has told us he's doing in our store-wide meetings. I wonder where THAT money came from... :poke:

I do understand that the owner of a company can get away with a few extra luxuries than the employees. I do realize that I am not going to get a pay increase to match his, that is not the way things work. Just don't lie to our faces about it. We're not idiots.



*whew* Sorry to hijack again! You're right, Rosie, it does feel good to just vent it out.
 
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