Cursed_Witch
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susang said:
hey thanks susan for the help
so you think i should be fine with the feeder fish..
but tell me.. why did you keep it only for a week or two?
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hey thanks susan for the help
so you think i should be fine with the feeder fish..
but tell me.. why did you keep it only for a week or two?
Billybobob
very unactive member
Cursed_Witch said:
Do you actually remember me? Because we really did not get along that well. Well no hard feeling here I just want your new snake to get the care it needs.
:cheers:
Cursed_Witch
New member
Billybobob said:
yes bob.. i know we didnt get along realy well at first
but as far as i rememeber before i dissapeared.. we were actually getting along fine... and i know i said this at some point that.. funny how things were cool after the temper probs we had.
anyways thank you again for the help. i dont feel like i want to keep this snake. cause i already have stewie.
did you see his new pics btw? i had a new post in the pic gallery that sais picture update
Billybobob
very unactive member
Yeah I seen him, he is looking good by the way. :cheers:
Cursed_Witch
New member
Billybobob said:
thanks ive been taking good care of him
tahnks to all the help i got from here
but he has been giving me a hard time eating lately
so i had to leave the food overnight for him and wake up in the morning with the food gone.
Tula_Montage
It's Jager time!
So you are going to attempt to keep a wild caught specimen?
If so are you prepared for the many problems you may face?
If so are you prepared for the many problems you may face?
pgr8dnlvr
An obsolete oldie...
Did I hear someone say you are in BC Canada? Where abouts?
Anyway, I have a fair bit of experience with keeping garter snakes <even though I know it is illegal, blah dee blah blah! lol>
The thing with Garter snakes is that they need LOTS of room compared to other snakes, and they definitely thrive on a diet of small fish, guppies or baby swordtails when young, feeder goldfish when older, both of which are easily attainable at local petshops. If you are in BC I can even tell ya which pet shops.
Anyway that cricket thing is a load of malarkey. It is soooooooo hard to get them to accept crickets. Another fool-proof food I have found is tadpoles and frogs. Unfortunately though, they would have to be from tree frogs as all but the very smallest bullfrog tadpoles would not do.
As far as other alternate foods you can try earthworms, dew worms, and BROWN <not those plentiful black> slugs. I have heard of many snakes doing really really well with the dew worms. Feedings should be a little more frequent than with your average snake. I find at least every three days is best.
Now for space. Even thigh they are very small these guys need lots of room. For instance I wouldn't house a young adult or an adult in anything smaller than about 4' long for any length of time. Babies of course could go in say, a 20 gallon aquarium. You need to have lots of natural hiding places and a very large water bowl big enough for the snake to swim in, not just soak. I have found using the eco earth or coconut dirt with a nice thick fluffy layer of moss on it works well for substrate but of course going with the nice natural viv is much harder to clean when cleaning day comes!
With these guys I find that the full spectrum lighting and very low heats in your warm areas < 80 - 85 degrees> are best as far as lighting needs.
Anyway if you need more info. PM me if you want. I definitely feel that a garter snake taken care of properly in captivity will thrive if given the chance. Another super cool thing is that if you are lucky enough and find a female around late spring in a little while you will likely be surprised with lots and lots of babies! They have live babies and its so cool to see them born!
Rebecca
Anyway, I have a fair bit of experience with keeping garter snakes <even though I know it is illegal, blah dee blah blah! lol>
The thing with Garter snakes is that they need LOTS of room compared to other snakes, and they definitely thrive on a diet of small fish, guppies or baby swordtails when young, feeder goldfish when older, both of which are easily attainable at local petshops. If you are in BC I can even tell ya which pet shops.
Anyway that cricket thing is a load of malarkey. It is soooooooo hard to get them to accept crickets. Another fool-proof food I have found is tadpoles and frogs. Unfortunately though, they would have to be from tree frogs as all but the very smallest bullfrog tadpoles would not do.
As far as other alternate foods you can try earthworms, dew worms, and BROWN <not those plentiful black> slugs. I have heard of many snakes doing really really well with the dew worms. Feedings should be a little more frequent than with your average snake. I find at least every three days is best.
Now for space. Even thigh they are very small these guys need lots of room. For instance I wouldn't house a young adult or an adult in anything smaller than about 4' long for any length of time. Babies of course could go in say, a 20 gallon aquarium. You need to have lots of natural hiding places and a very large water bowl big enough for the snake to swim in, not just soak. I have found using the eco earth or coconut dirt with a nice thick fluffy layer of moss on it works well for substrate but of course going with the nice natural viv is much harder to clean when cleaning day comes!
With these guys I find that the full spectrum lighting and very low heats in your warm areas < 80 - 85 degrees> are best as far as lighting needs.
Anyway if you need more info. PM me if you want. I definitely feel that a garter snake taken care of properly in captivity will thrive if given the chance. Another super cool thing is that if you are lucky enough and find a female around late spring in a little while you will likely be surprised with lots and lots of babies! They have live babies and its so cool to see them born!
Rebecca
Jay@PJCReptiles
"Quality Before Quantity"
Ok, I just have to add my input on this one. We live Maine, USA and my son has been catching garter snakes most of his life. We have successfully kept them from spring to fall. I feel they should be set free to hibernate on their own. They are not like corn snakes, that just bumate. I would think if the garter is from Canada, than the same applies. There is a book called Garter and Water Snakes published by AVS. I know you can get this book from Mike Greathouse at www.reptiliandreams.com I am not sure on the shipping to Canada but I used to work for the US Postal Service and we let people ship books to Canada. Garters do eat feeder fish, small gold fish type ones that are cheap, like 20 to 30 cents a piece. We love the books published by AVS (Advanced Vivarium Systems). I hope this helps you out.
Good Luck
PJ & Jay
Good Luck
PJ & Jay