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Interesting runt

Siblings of the runt

I forgot to post pics of the siblings1 I think all have plain bellies some with red some white. I haven't really had much time to inspect them one by one yet, I have too many babies from different clutches to feed and separate.

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Snakehead said:
This little guy popped out of one of my Polkeetee lines (Polk county x Okeetee). It resulted from a WC Polk County female that was already gravid and mated to one of the babies from that clutch.

Now he is something different, I just wanted to clear something up in my cloudy mind. You mention Okeetee but as I understand what you are saying the mom was WC but was all ready gravid and one of the babies was bred back to mom to get this little guy? So in this case there was no breeding with an Okeetee?
Thanks
John
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You are correct!

Thank you for pointing that out! I must have been half a sleep when I posted that, lol. No there is nothing but locality Polk County, Florida blood in these. I just went back and re-read my posts and none of the pictures are from any outbreeding. I do have a line of Polk County x Okeetees which I was calling Tangerines but I think I like Polkatees better. I drive all night then try to do some posting before I go to bed and a little before I go to work. I was probably posting some pics of the Polkatees in the Cornsnake section of King Snake web site. Yeah that is confusing and I'm surprised no one else brought that up? Here are some Polkatees.

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These are a result from this pair below. The Male to the top left is a WC Polk County, the female is an Abbott below him, and the one to the center is one of their off spring.
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OK, with the plain-ish bellies and hypo-like appearance, looks like you got hold of some "rosy rat" (aka Upper Keys) variant (and just because they are more commonly found in the Florida keys doesn't mean they can't be elsewhere in the state). They used to classify them as a separate subspecies, but now they are just all considered corn snakes.
 
Susan said:
OK, with the plain-ish bellies and hypo-like appearance, looks like you got hold of some "rosy rat" (aka Upper Keys) variant (and just because they are more commonly found in the Florida keys doesn't mean they can't be elsewhere in the state). They used to classify them as a separate subspecies, but now they are just all considered corn snakes.
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Susan you may be on to something! There probably is some relation to the rosy rats. I suspect that the ones in the Keys are just more exagerated due to being cut off from the mainland. That's a good observation!
 
I want one!!! He is so precious! I bet he will be small as an adult, but I hope his adorable size doesn't give him trouble.
 
I like the term Polkatee. You instantly know what it is. Tangerine makes me think of Mandarin. That's confusing.
 
Plus VMS has been using tangerine in reference to one of their creamsicle (hybrid) lines for years. That's my first thought when I hear tangerine. I would not want to confuse hybrids with these. I like Polkatees!!!
 
ratsncorns said:
Those are some really nice offspring from WC lines!

BTW, hello neighbor! I live in Avon Park :)
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Hi Angela! Your just south of me about a stones throw lol. Do you ever find any Corns near your area? I have often wanted to go road cruising that way but I just can't find time anymore. Catch ya later neighbor.
 
Nanci said:
I like the term Polkatee. You instantly know what it is. Tangerine makes me think of Mandarin. That's confusing.
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Yeah I was just using that term so I could distinguish them from the others, But I like Polkatees too. Thanks Susan.
 
dionythicus said:
Plus VMS has been using tangerine in reference to one of their creamsicle (hybrid) lines for years. That's my first thought when I hear tangerine. I would not want to confuse hybrids with these. I like Polkatees!!!
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Wow didn't know anyone else used that name? Do you have a link? Anyway Polkatees it is. At least for the ones bred into the Okeetee line of course. I call the ones from Lake Wales, Lake Wales Corns. Haha I know how original. But I distinguish them from other Polk County Corns cause they are more of an Amber or Caramel color. Thanks for the info!
 
Snakehead said:
Wow didn't know anyone else used that name? Do you have a link? Anyway Polkatees it is. At least for the ones bred into the Okeetee line of course. I call the ones from Lake Wales, Lake Wales Corns. Haha I know how original. But I distinguish them from other Polk County Corns cause they are more of an Amber or Caramel color. Thanks for the info!
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I think locality names are by far the simplest way to go, that way we know exactly what they are!!! But here is a link to VMS:
http://www.vmsherp.com/4SaleCornsnakes.htm

But you have to scroll down and he is calling amel creamsicles "Tangerine", so I really think you are on the right track with locality names.
John
 
Snakehead said:
Hi Angela! Your just south of me about a stones throw lol. Do you ever find any Corns near your area? I have often wanted to go road cruising that way but I just can't find time anymore. Catch ya later neighbor.
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I have found a couple nice corns, one was even very hypo-ish! I let them all go, though.

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