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Is there is a chance for her?

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slackerz

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Hi all,im new here.i just jump into keeping cornsnake because i just adopt cornsnake from my friend,the sick one actually.this corn snake suffer from scale rot. Actually my friend got cheated from someone,that sell this corn to him.whenever he ask why the scale like this,that 'reputable breeder' said she want to shed..and he sell this corn as a proven breeder also.so you all know about scale rot and maybe someone has experience about it.so i need to know,is there any chance of survive to this fella..ok,see the condition of her belly.
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im sorry for low quality of picture.but i think anyone can see how worst issit..this corn still treat by me under supervision of vet here..when i just got here,her skin not like snake skin anymore..i rather said bearded dragon skin..and the belly really2 worst and has fluid..right now still in the middle of treatment,but belly quite dry rite now and the other part of scale start to peeling of..we still didnt give her antibiotic because she was too weak before.
so,i wanna ask again,is there anyone here experience this,and has successful case?
 
I had a snake that had a small case of scale rot and after 3 sheds that were real close to each other, only like two weeks in between, was fine. However, it wasn't anywhere as bad as that pic...Good luck with everything.
 
He took her to a vet. The snake is in the middle of a treatment program.

He's asking if anyone here has seen a case as bad as this that recovered with treatment. I am guessing the exotics vets in Malaysia may be few and far between and may not have had boatloads of experience with this. I am guessing that he is soliciting any advice from anyone has who has successfully dealt with a case as bad as this that may complement the treatment program he is already using under the supervision of his vet.
 
I don't have any experience with scale rot, slackerz, but you've come to the right place for support and experience. I'm sure someone will be along to address your issue more directly. It sounds like you're doing all you reasonably can. Not everyone would take on an animal with a problem. Best of luck to you and your snake.
 
jesserca said:
I had a snake that had a small case of scale rot and after 3 sheds that were real close to each other, only like two weeks in between, was fine. However, it wasn't anywhere as bad as that pic...Good luck with everything.
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thanks..i hope she will be ok..
 
desertanimal said:
He took her to a vet. The snake is in the middle of a treatment program.

He's asking if anyone here has seen a case as bad as this that recovered with treatment. I am guessing the exotics vets in Malaysia may be few and far between and may not have had boatloads of experience with this. I am guessing that he is soliciting any advice from anyone has who has successfully dealt with a case as bad as this that may complement the treatment program he is already using under the supervision of his vet.
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Thanks..thats what i mean..in my area,only about 3 vets expert with the reptile..i already brought my corn to see the vet,who are among the expert in this country,and he also vet for our national zoo..but it seems he also not familiar with this case,because here snake rarely get disease like this because of suitable tropical environment to the snake.so now we try our best with our method..next week i'll bring her again to vet to take antibiotic injection..wish me luck.

p/s:im sorry for my bad english..if anyone did not understand my post,it is my mistake..sorry.
 
Caryl said:
I don't have any experience with scale rot, slackerz, but you've come to the right place for support and experience. I'm sure someone will be along to address your issue more directly. It sounds like you're doing all you reasonably can. Not everyone would take on an animal with a problem. Best of luck to you and your snake.
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thanks for the wish..i hope if someone experienced in this problem can share his experience with me..i dont want to make many "try and error" on my snake..
 
When one of mine had scale rot, I kept it in a very basic setup. Newspaper on the floor, one hide at the warm end, one hide at the cool end (both easy to clean) and a water dish too small to sit in. I changed the newspaper each day (whether or not the snake had pooped) and disinfected both the setup, equipment and snake, every 2-3 days.

Scale rot is a fungus, which is carried by spores. To get a full recovery, you not only have to treat the snake, but you have to make sure that you disinfect the snake's environment and clean up all the spores as often as possible.

Good luck!

With mine, hers was much less serious and it took the best part of three months to get her scales back to normal and her feeding routine back on track (she refused food throughout).
 
@bitsy, I have never heard about scale rot being caused by a fungus. I looked it up to be sure and all sources just said it is the rotting of scales, caused by bad hygiene and vulnerable to bacterial infection. The scientific name is Necrotic Dermatitis, e.g. infection of the skin causing the skin to die. That's why it is treated with antibiotics and not anti fungus medication.

Of course it is a good idea to keep her cage very clean during treatment, but not because of spores. Just because as long as her skin is vulnerable, you want to keep the wrong bacteria away from her.

I do think a systemic treatment (internal instead of external) added to treating the skin is recommended, to prevent the infection from getting into the blood stream and cause septicemia = (presence of pathogenic microorganisms or their toxins in tissues or in the blood. Systemic disease caused by the spread of the microorganisms via the circulating blood is commonly called SEPTICEMIA. see http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/glossary=systemicinfection)

Good luck with her, I hope she survives to have a great life at your place and give you joy for a long time!
 
bitsy said:
When one of mine had scale rot, I kept it in a very basic setup. Newspaper on the floor, one hide at the warm end, one hide at the cool end (both easy to clean) and a water dish too small to sit in. I changed the newspaper each day (whether or not the snake had pooped) and disinfected both the setup, equipment and snake, every 2-3 days.

Scale rot is a fungus, which is carried by spores. To get a full recovery, you not only have to treat the snake, but you have to make sure that you disinfect the snake's environment and clean up all the spores as often as possible.

Good luck!

With mine, hers was much less serious and it took the best part of three months to get her scales back to normal and her feeding routine back on track (she refused food throughout).
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i do clean the the cage everyday..before this,the belly seems to be wet,producing some mucus..that time i change 4 time a day,but try not to disturb her.
yours take 3 month and that one much less serious?hohhoho,i think it take more time for mine..
tq...

Blutengel said:
@bitsy, I have never heard about scale rot being caused by a fungus. I looked it up to be sure and all sources just said it is the rotting of scales, caused by bad hygiene and vulnerable to bacterial infection. The scientific name is Necrotic Dermatitis, e.g. infection of the skin causing the skin to die. That's why it is treated with antibiotics and not anti fungus medication.

Of course it is a good idea to keep her cage very clean during treatment, but not because of spores. Just because as long as her skin is vulnerable, you want to keep the wrong bacteria away from her.

I do think a systemic treatment (internal instead of external) added to treating the skin is recommended, to prevent the infection from getting into the blood stream and cause septicemia = (presence of pathogenic microorganisms or their toxins in tissues or in the blood. Systemic disease caused by the spread of the microorganisms via the circulating blood is commonly called SEPTICEMIA. see http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/glossary=systemicinfection)

Good luck with her, I hope she survives to have a great life at your place and give you joy for a long time!
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thanks..yeah i also think systemic treatment really necessary now.actually i want her to have antibiotic injection..but the vet said,she's too weak last time to give antibiotic.if we give that time,she might straight away 'go'..
so now i inject this fella once for a two days with multivitamin that he gave me.and soak in the solution he gave me half an hour for everyday,and he want me to feed this fella..because she didnt take food for a long time before.last week i feed her,and yesterday she poop..but the feces quite different from healthy snake..i took it and keep it,maybe i can bring to vet for my next visit for the screening..
thanks again..
 
I'm sorry that your snake is so sick. hope that she will recover. Sorry that I can not offer any advice, as I only had snakes for about 10 months. I sure love all my snakes though,
Marsha
 
I think if the vet know what is causing the infection, there's a chance. The fact that she ate is a good sign, I think. Also, I know scale rot has to do with humidity so keeping her environment nice and dry (I would keep her on paper towels or something similar & change daily) will probably help.

You're a good person to take her on! Having someone like you working to help her get better is probably the thing that improves her chances the most.
 
I don't have any any experience with scale rot, so I don't have any advice to offer, but I just wanted to say good luck with her! I hope she heals soon and I am glad she found some one to take such good care of her :)
 
marshaelaine said:
I'm sorry that your snake is so sick. hope that she will recover. Sorry that I can not offer any advice, as I only had snakes for about 10 months. I sure love all my snakes though,
Marsha
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thanks..i think we are in the same boat..im also new to cornsnake..really love her too..

wstphal said:
I think if the vet know what is causing the infection, there's a chance. The fact that she ate is a good sign, I think. Also, I know scale rot has to do with humidity so keeping her environment nice and dry (I would keep her on paper towels or something similar & change daily) will probably help.

You're a good person to take her on! Having someone like you working to help her get better is probably the thing that improves her chances the most.
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thanks you..i think i'll ask the vet to do screening test to her to make sure antibiotic work really well..

sweet~nichole~marie said:
I don't have any any experience with scale rot, so I don't have any advice to offer, but I just wanted to say good luck with her! I hope she heals soon and I am glad she found some one to take such good care of her :)
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thanks for the wish..
 
@bitsy, I have never heard about scale rot being caused by a fungus.
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Ah, thanks for that. Learn something new every day! I followed up in a journal and the advice is pretty much the same with regards for the husbandry side of management. A dry, minimal environment which is regularly cleaned/disinfected.
 
Eating and defecating is a hopeful sign! I hope she continues to hang in there and you'll soon see real improvement. I know this disease takes a long while to heal completely, but eating again probably means she's feeling a bit better.
 
Caryl said:
Eating and defecating is a hopeful sign! I hope she continues to hang in there and you'll soon see real improvement. I know this disease takes a long while to heal completely, but eating again probably means she's feeling a bit better.
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yeah..her skin start to falling now..but only a few..and the level of curiosity also increase..now she can lift her head a little bit whenever i open the enclosure..before this,she totally lost the control of her movement..

i also expect she will take time to recover..my friend said she already 3 month with him without shedding,so to recover,the period must be longer i guess..

thanks,i'll update here if there is any improvement.
 
How can she eat if she is just able to lift her head? Eating takes a lot of efforts muscle wise... I think it ewas just a lack of energy before. Great she is eating though! I'm suprised, since if they nearly lift their heads they usually are too far gone to show any interest in food. What size of prey did she eat?
 
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