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Ivory Soap and Problem Feeders?

When I first started seeing this thread come up on the New Post Searches, I thought it was a joke, but after seeing the thread grow, I decided to take a look at it. After reading the thread, I decided that it was certainly worth a try. At this time of the year, I have a rack of non-feeders that I slowly watch starve themselves to death. I had a great subject group to test this new feeding technique.

I had 61 hatchlings from various clutches of various morphs. They had all been offered live, thawed, brained and lizard scented thawed. Many of them had been offered food over a dozen times. I didn’t have any Ivory Soap, which happens to be pure soap JOE, and a very good product. I did have some cheap Crystal White, lemon scented dish soap, so I counted my pinkies, and put them in a sudsy bowl of warm water and gave them some action with my fingers. I let them soak awhile and stirred them some more, and then rinsed them thoroughly. I patted them dry and was ready to go.

I already had the hatchlings set up pretty good to try this test. They were all in 6 inch clear short tubs with a 3 ounce portion cup for water and the lid for the portion cup is used as a table to offer food. The results I got were pretty consistent with what others have been reporting and quite astonishing if you ask me. 34 ate almost immediately and 27 refused. I also have a group of live only feeders. I fed most of them yesterday, but I had 8 that I did not feed. They will eat live every time I offered it to them, but they had refused thawed several times each. I offered all 8 washed thawed pinks and they all ate!

All this time we have been stinking up the pinks with everything we could imagine, when all this time, taking some scent away was what was needed. I am going to lizard scent the 27 that did not take the washed pinks and see if another miracle happens.
 
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Joe,

I hope you get more of the other 27 to eat that have not yet but on the 34 that did eat :cheers: that is just fricken awesome. 34 little guys that will be pets instead of waisting away in nothingness.

I can't tell you how many tiny house snakes doing this has turned into mouse distroying machines. I am going to go out on a limb and say doing wash and lizard together will get another 30-50% at minimum of the others to eat as well.

Great, awesome, stuff that is a big number of snakes that you did not either have to leave die or try to force feed,
 
I tried last night..washed the f/t pinkie and at first I thought my nonfeeder would take it! It looked so promising... She checked it out, then was nose to nose w/ it for awhile, rested her head on it & then finally refused. Yet again.
 
Don S & Serp!

Looks like some content for your 07 publications!


Outstanding find, guys! Congrats to all that this is working for! (us included!)

:cheers:
 
I just tried it on 4 problem feeders (Ivory soap). One took it within minutes, 2 are still checking it out, but the 4th probably won't take it (but that one hasn't eaten for 2 months and is very thin). But I'm very pleased that at least one took it as nothing else has worked for over a month! I wish I had seen this thread a long time ago as I'm sure a few others that have either died or were euthanized may still be alive today.
 
Hi there everyone,
Can any of you tell me the UK equivalent of Ivory soap?
Or has anyone in the UK tried this with another type of soap with a successful result?
I ask because I'd love to try it with my one non-feeder. Ok it's only one but if it works I'll have saved her from withering away.
Many thanks
 
I'm using dawn dish detergent on mine so it appears any soap works as long as it is rinsed well. Probably any soap that can be used on sensitive skin or whatnot will do.
 
I'm so glad I found this thread. Since I took home my girl back in August she has only eaten twice and it took her almost two hours to figure it out both times... But today, not even ten minutes passed and she ate! I was so happy I thought I should offer her a second one but she seemed pretty content so I didn't want to stress her out (even though she aught to be eating two at this point... But I'm just glad she ate one!)

PS: The soap I used was no-name soap, so I don't think snakes are brand-specific, haha.
 
Susielea said:
Hi there everyone,
Can any of you tell me the UK equivalent of Ivory soap?
Or has anyone in the UK tried this with another type of soap with a successful result?
I ask because I'd love to try it with my one non-feeder. Ok it's only one but if it works I'll have saved her from withering away.
Many thanks
I'm allergic to perfume so I use the fragrance free shampoo from *uperdrug as a shower gel and in a liquid soap dispenser, so that's what I washed the pinkies with.
 
This is a great thread. It makes so much sense that in the rodent dens of debauchery that the mice are born in they would become covered with alot of smells that are less than desirable.
I just have a quick question. I bought a hatchling corn last week and the breeder said he had been fed once and had his first shed. Ive had him a little over a week now and he has no bulge and hasnt pooped so I assume its been a monthish since his first/last meal. He has refused two F/T pinkies both with me dragging them around and putting him in a small container with it over night. I want to try this washing method tomorrow. But was just curious, I have him in a 10 gallon tank. Should I put him in a smaller container again inside the tank? Or offer the pinkie by just putting it in the tank with him. The last few days he has taken a liking to burrowing around in his aspen shavings bedding even though he has hides on both the warm and cool sides of his tank. Thanks.
 
Magicwhisper said:
I read on another site that for problem feeders you could wash the food in ivory soap and it will trigger something in the snake to eat it.... It was discovered by the ASU herp department... They say that they have a 100% success rate..... Is this true and is it safe? Any advice?
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"Well a new discovery has been found i tried it and it worked. This will shock u but if u do it right it helps for a snake thats not eating. Ready---- Ivory bar soap----- what u do is rub it all over the pinky or rat or w/e then wash it really good so that no bubbles apear anywhere on the mouse ( about 2 minutes -3 minutes) then the sent of the soap triggers somthing to the snake making it want the food item. Now it doesnt work with any other soap only Ivory bar soap. I tried it today for my spotted python because he wasnt eating and it worked. this discovery was made by ASU herpitology department. Way to go ASU!"

DOes anyone have a link to the original article for this?
 
I have to add my great results! I am so very excited!!! I had a non eater. she probably hasn't eaten for about a month. I tried the wash technique and had wonderous results! I am so happy!!! :crazy02: i washed the f/t in Joy liquid dishsoap, rinsed really well, placed her and the pink in a deli cup, placed her in a dark area and she ate!!! I am so increadibly happy!!! i had almost given up on her! Thank you everyone for posting on this! I also got 2 of my new ones to eat this morning (i got her yesterday) that had refused to eat earlier. I will give the last new one an hour before i give up for the day. i cannot tell you how increadily happy i am! :bird:
 
another one to the count!!

hey this soap thing really works I had my little buddy get to eat whit this technique, I just washed the pinkie with dish soap and rinse it really well, then place it on the viv and problem solved, after a few time the pinkie wasn´t there anymore, instead I saw a little and adorable lump hehehehe I´m so happy about it.
 
:crazy02: I guess its time for me to actually post my results....

the first time I did it only 4 out of 20 ate...
The second time 6 out of 20
the third time I washed only 3 and all three were taken. But this time I used dawn instead of ivory.... I don't care what the "clean scent" is, all I care is that my problem feeders are finally OFF the disgusting pinky pump!!!! Thank goodness!!!!!! :cheers:
 
I am enthusiastic from your trials!
Its fantastic to know a new method for non-feeders - i will place it on my big list of tipps for non-feeders on my german website, so more people and corns can profit from that thread.
 
I had to add my success story to the thread. It was 2 weeks since his last meal. Who would have thought all I need was a little soap and water? LOL. Who’d thought something so simple to be the resolution? I had just used the last of my Ivory dish soap, so I just added some warm water to the bottle and gave the mouse a good rub down. I thought watering the liquid down would make rinsing it off a little easier. Well, as you can see it definitely works.

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