Jungles corn pics please...

[Plums]

Please post all your Jungle babies please.....

want to see those vibrant thangs! .. :cheers:

 

[magila]

my 2 jungles

 

[sleepingdahlia]

sorry for the quality of the pic I was giggling and trying to hold him steady at the same time...he was sitting in the trivet initially and then making his departure.

 

[Plums]

God arnt they all stunning..thanks guy's

 

[lefty_mussolini]

Here are a couple pics of mine. The female just laid eggs.
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=234795&postcount=35
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=254240&postcount=1

 

[scalesnthings]

Here's Guchi

 

[Joejr14]

Not to be a total nazi, but it's been stated before that corn only pictures belong in the photo gallery. All others have been requested to be put in the general chit chat forum. I believe it was agreed that cornsnake and intergrades are permissible while hybrids are not.

 

[King21]

Not to be a total nazi, but it's been stated before that corn only pictures belong in the photo gallery. All others have been requested to be put in the general chit chat forum. I believe it was agreed that cornsnake and intergrades are permissible while hybrids are not.

Hybrids, Shmybrids...They are corns in my book. :grin01: And I think they look AMAZING! Where can I get my hands on one of those!!!

 

[Had1nowwant1]

what are corns crossed with to make jungle corns? kings?

scalesnthings- Guchi is amazing where did you get him/her

 

[King21]

what are corns crossed with to make jungle corns? kings?

scalesnthings- Guchi is amazing where did you get him/her

yep, kings.

 

[CornCrazy]

Links to a couple of mine:
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12591

Unfortunately, Mello Yello passed away last year

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12592

 

[CornCrazy]

Not to be a total nazi, but it's been stated before that corn only pictures belong in the photo gallery. All others have been requested to be put in the general chit chat forum. I believe it was agreed that cornsnake and intergrades are permissible while hybrids are not.

I thought Rich said that hybrids WERE allowed...

 

[Plums]

Do Jungle corns not fall into the Corn category then ???


Sorry if i got u guys into trouble !

Thanks for sharing your pics anyway, its lovley to see such beautiful snakes

 

[Arcanefate]

Jungle Corns are still considered Corns and they are allowed.

Scalesnthings- Gucci is amazing! Do you produce offspring from him/her?

 

[magila]

Jungle Corns are still considered Corns and they are allowed.

Scalesnthings- Gucci is amazing! Do you produce offspring from him/her?

I don't agree with you here.
I think Jungle's must not be considered corns because they are hybrids.
so they should be considered hybrids.
I think only pure blood corn should be considered corns because best thing is keeping pure and hybrid separate.
otherwise there will be a hole lot of confussion, especially with the newbies and snakes that can't be identified

but this is just my opinion

 

[Arcanefate]

I don't agree with you here.
I think Jungle's must not be considered corns because they are hybrids.
so they should be considered hybrids.
I think only pure blood corn should be considered corns because best thing is keeping pure and hybrid separate.
otherwise there will be a hole lot of confussion, especially with the newbies and snakes that can't be identified

but this is just my opinion

A Creamsicle is a hybrid, but still considered a corn. Granted a Rat snake is a form of corn snake, but they are still hybrids. At least "Jungle" is placed before Corn to refer to it as a hybrid. That is the distinction to tell you it isn't a pure blood. I don't see anyone referring to Creamsicles as "Jungle" Creamsicles to tell the difference. It is just assumed if you know enough about the breed you know what its heritage is, or at least you can look it up.

The point is, that's why we refer to them as Jungle Corns. They are still looked at by "most" breeders as a type of corn just like Creamsicles.

 

[Yantzie]

A Creamsicle is a hybrid, but still considered a corn. Granted a Rat snake is a form of corn snake, but they are still hybrids. At least "Jungle" is placed before Corn to refer to it as a hybrid. That is the distinction to tell you it isn't a pure blood. I don't see anyone referring to Creamsicles as "Jungle" Creamsicles to tell the difference. It is just assumed if you know enough about the breed you know what its heritage is, or at least you can look it up.

The point is, that's why we refer to them as Jungle Corns. They are still looked at by "most" breeders as a type of corn just like Creamsicles.

Creamsicle corns are totally different thing all together they are (great plains rat snake) Elaphe guttata emoryi X (Corn snake aka Red rat snake) Elaphe guttata guttata they were until recently thought to be subspecies so they are often considered to be close enough to a corn because they are very closely related, where as jungle corns are corns crossed with Lampropeltis getulus or king snakes a totally different genus.

Jungle corns are so named to show they are hybrids specifically with king snakes, and creamsicle corns are so named to show they are hybrid with emoryi rat snakes. Thats why you dont see anyone calling them jungle Creamsicles because they dont have kingsnake in them. In no way shape or form are hybrids considered corns i dont care if they are only 1% king or other type of snake it should be label a hybrid and considered a hybrid not a corn.

 

[magila]

Creamsicle corns are totally different thing all together they are (great plains rat snake) Elaphe guttata emoryi X (Corn snake aka Red rat snake) Elaphe guttata guttata they were until recently thought to be subspecies so they are often considered to be close enough to a corn because they are very closely related, where as jungle corns are corns crossed with Lampropeltis getulus or king snakes a totally different genus.

Jungle corns are so named to show they are hybrids specifically with king snakes, and creamsicle corns are so named to show they are hybrid with emoryi rat snakes. Thats why you dont see anyone calling them jungle Creamsicles because they dont have kingsnake in them. In no way shape or form are hybrids considered corns i dont care if they are only 1% king or other type of snake it should be label a hybrid and considered a hybrid not a corn.

yes this is exactly what i meant to say
creamsicles were until recently intergrades (cross between subspecies) and with jungle corns (lampro blood) there's a totally different genus in play (its a totally different snake)

 

[magila]

Here in Europe I hear and see so many people (newbies) think that a jungle corn is a pure blood corn (probably because it says jungle CORN).
and these people just treat them as pure blood corns resulting in all kind of problems.
like help I put my jungle corn with my normal and now he's eating him or even worse: they breed them to a pure blood corn and the baby's all look like normal corns therefor they sell them to other people as normal pure blood corns.
then it could be that your "normal corn" could develop some nasty lampro characters...
or the f2/f3/f4 suddenly looks different and people say hey I got a new morph because they think that they have a pure blood corn witch the don't!

I'm not for or against hybrids; find them often very attractive.
I even got my own 1.1 jungles (see previous post in this topic) and 0.1 creamsicle and 1.0 rootbeer.
but I keep my hybrids far away from my pure blood corns and will never breed them to each other.
I think that the hybrids that look like a pure blood are a disaster for the market.

therefor I think that people should explain to other people that it is a hybrid and not a pure blood be for they sell it to them.

 

[Slippery Ernie]

Granted a Rat snake is a form of corn snake

I think it's the other way around.