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Labeling hatchlings
- Thread starter abaro2
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ZoologyGirl
Under Tank Heather
It's usually arbitrary, based on how you want to label it. Usually there's some combo that may include, but not limited to, year, clutch number, male/female lettering/numbering system, etc... People use different systems based on what works for them.
StrangeCargo
New member
Everyone has thier own method. I really new to redo my spreadsheet and update tags/labels. I'm not using my system like I should but will need to begin asap with increasing numbers of hatchlings. My idea was fromKJ Lodrigue (KJUN Snakehaven)....I think I've changed up his way a bit, BUT it works for me (thats the key- find something that works for you)
More less:
FEMALES are "named" alphabetical letters... start off with A-Z...then you can switch to TWO letters like AA, AB, AC, AD, AE etc.
MALES are "named" numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc.
Make an excel spreadsheet to keep up with info (age, bloodline, hets, etc.) for quick reference.
"naming"/labeling babies is easy... breeding female AE to male 32 would give you LITTER AE32 you can even add the year at the end of that if you wanna get fancy. Litter AE3206 would be the 2006 litter from female AE bred to male 32
From there you can take things further if you want by labeling individual hatchlings...make it something you remember... you can always use "m" for males and "f" for females
Example:
AE3206M4 I would interpet that as the 2006 MALE hatchling #4 from the pairing of female AE to Male 32
If someone emails you two or three years down the road about an animal (AND THEY STILL HAVE THE ANIMALS NUMBER/CODE) you can easily tell them everything they need to know if they've forgotten it. You'd know it's a 2006 male...looking up the parental info from your nifty spreadsheet, you could tell them what the animal is het for along with parental bloodline info.
Hope that helps (it made sense to me.... just think up a way that works for YOU).
Graham
More less:
FEMALES are "named" alphabetical letters... start off with A-Z...then you can switch to TWO letters like AA, AB, AC, AD, AE etc.
MALES are "named" numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc.
Make an excel spreadsheet to keep up with info (age, bloodline, hets, etc.) for quick reference.
"naming"/labeling babies is easy... breeding female AE to male 32 would give you LITTER AE32 you can even add the year at the end of that if you wanna get fancy. Litter AE3206 would be the 2006 litter from female AE bred to male 32
From there you can take things further if you want by labeling individual hatchlings...make it something you remember... you can always use "m" for males and "f" for females
Example:
AE3206M4 I would interpet that as the 2006 MALE hatchling #4 from the pairing of female AE to Male 32
If someone emails you two or three years down the road about an animal (AND THEY STILL HAVE THE ANIMALS NUMBER/CODE) you can easily tell them everything they need to know if they've forgotten it. You'd know it's a 2006 male...looking up the parental info from your nifty spreadsheet, you could tell them what the animal is het for along with parental bloodline info.
Hope that helps (it made sense to me.... just think up a way that works for YOU).
Graham
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StrangeCargo
New member
LOL- Thanks. It's hard for me to describe it- could have probably been worded different. Believe me, KJ had to explain his method multiple times to me.... I think mine is alittle different from his... once I understood, it made alot of sense. My older methods sucked and really made it VERY hard...I like this way...it works for me...and it's easily customized.
Graham
StrangeCargo
New member
Forgot to mention:
HOLDBACK babies are assigned their own NEW letter code (females) or number code (males). On your spreadsheet (or records) you note thier hatchling code. This way you can look back and at a glance figure out who mom and dad was...
HOLDBACK babies are assigned their own NEW letter code (females) or number code (males). On your spreadsheet (or records) you note thier hatchling code. This way you can look back and at a glance figure out who mom and dad was...
Lynnea
That's "lin-NAY-ah"
Wow, good system but complicated (for me)! I am so right-brained, I *must* name each and every snake and that's what goes on the bin, along with a brief morph description. We're talking over 70 snakes, but I know every one of them by name.
I use iherp to maintain all records and each snake does have a number I assign them. I also use ACR nos. for hatchlings. So all snakes have an ACR no. as well. Now that I think about it, I might change all the nos. to ACR nos., will make for easier record keeping.
I use iherp to maintain all records and each snake does have a number I assign them. I also use ACR nos. for hatchlings. So all snakes have an ACR no. as well. Now that I think about it, I might change all the nos. to ACR nos., will make for easier record keeping.
glenhead
Elder curmudgeon
Once we start producing ophidian offspring, I'm thinkin' a staple gun for labeling. :fullauto:
Lesley may have other ideas, though...
Graham, your method will give us a good starting point for our discussion. We have a spreadsheet with every possible combination and permutation, so a schema like yours will make it easy to reference.
Lesley may have other ideas, though...
Graham, your method will give us a good starting point for our discussion. We have a spreadsheet with every possible combination and permutation, so a schema like yours will make it easy to reference.
airenlow
hope is not a strategy
A "hold back" or "keeper" is an animal that you intend to keep and add to your own collection...
KJUN
New member
If you reverse it and make males letters and females numbers, it is a little better IMO. AG would be a male. 302 would be a female. This is better because the males are USUALLY the genetic power horses....and that tells you more (usually) than the mom. Plus (if you look at Graham's code), you put a number followed by the year, and the number gets confusing. My original system (improved upon something another breeders told me that he used) is to use numbers for males and letter for females.
That way, AG302 is a clutch. I then use A for the first of the year, B for the second, etc. So, AG302B09 would be a double clutch from 2009. Once sexed, I replace the A/B with a M for male or an F for female if I want. ...or place it at the end since the last digits are always numbers.....AG302C08M would be dad-AG, female-30, triple clutch in 2008, and this one is a male. Add the individual snake number after that (like 3 for the third) if you want.....and it keeps the letter-number-letter-number patern running...and you have as much as you want without confusing any group with any other that might get the same number next year. "Clutch 36" might happen every year...and 09-36 might tell you which clutch, but if you are looking at a snake you have to look up that clutch number to know what it is. AG302 tells me what it is as long as I remember what those snakes are.
If I decide to keep one, I give it a new number or letter, so GP might me AG302B09 with both numbers saved and written on the label. Advise: skip numbers that look a lot alike. I no longer use "S," for example, because HS10 can look too much like H510 on a clutch label after the letters get smeared a little or if you right it fast!
It works for me......and I don't even need to know the year a snake was produced to know the genetics.
KJ
KJUN
New member
I went through about 4 systems before I settled on this one. I know what you mean......
StrangeCargo
New member
LOL- see, I still messed up your system. At least I found a way to modify it so it works for me. Thanks for helping out- you are always so organized with stuff like this.
KJUN
New member
This is about the biggest I could make it and still have the forum accept it for upload. Any higher quality, and the forum rejects it.
Anyway, this is just the file for records about the snakes history (genetic, origination, etc.)...and nothing to do with husbandry since that wasn't the topic of the thread.
KJ
Anyway, this is just the file for records about the snakes history (genetic, origination, etc.)...and nothing to do with husbandry since that wasn't the topic of the thread.
KJ
