Lavender, Charcoal and Anery Combo questions

[Camby]

I am curious how lavender, charcoal and anery affects other traits. For example, when a corn is exhibiting double homo traits like AneryA and Charcoal, does the charcoal become masked by the anery A trait or do the traits "stack". Same for lavender, does it mask certain traits and so on and so on. Any pics would be appreciated also.

dc

 

[Susan]

I'm pretty sure that anery masks charcoal (can't find my morph guides at the moment - hubby cleaned the computer desk yesterday and now he must die) and some people say they tell an anery lavender from a regular lavender, but I'm not one of them as I've not seen any side by side. And as for charcoal and lavender, I have no clue. And I have no photos of any of these combos...yet. Give me a couple of years and I may end up changing my answer about anery and lavender, but I refuse to combine anery and charcoal unless absolutely necessary.

 

[torsten]

I haven't seen any 'Anery Charcoals' to my knowledge however hypo anery charcoal look different to hypo anerys and to hypo charcoals.

Lavenders and anery DO look different to anery lavenders.

And lavenders and charcoals look different to charcoal lavs.

lavender and caramels look different to lav caramels

anery masks caramel but anery caramels can have a more yellowy tint.

that help?

 

[Shiari]

My Vanay is suspected Anery Charcoal, and the two other hatchlings I've seen have shown a spectrum of traits that run the gamut from very anery-like to very charcoal-like. Vanay is smack in between.

She has very very charcoal-like coloration, but silver type anery eyes.

 

[danielle]

My anery lav mot looks like an anery lav mot,lol She's a smidge darker than a lav, but I hear anery lav rarely get the yellows of anery a in maturity.

 

[Nanci]

I don't believe I've seen an anery lav with the peachiness that a young lavender shows. Has anyone else noticed this? To me, anery lavs look colder, more blue, instead of warmer, more purple or plum. I like the anery lav color a lot.

 

[danielle]

My girl is quite peachy pinky, but she's an anery lav mot, and this may fade with age

 

[Ssthisto]

I don't believe I've seen an anery lav with the peachiness that a young lavender shows. Has anyone else noticed this? To me, anery lavs look colder, more blue, instead of warmer, more purple or plum. I like the anery lav color a lot.

I have an anery-lavender male (two Anery parents), who does have cold pink tones, but none of the warmer peachy-pink tones.

Next to my Lavender het Anery female (who are often greyer to begin with) he looks positively monochromatic - SHE has the peachy-pinky shades he's missing.

 

[Jay@PJCReptiles]

Ok, how do I start. I have combos of these in house and I can share. First up will be a combo of Anery and Charcoal but there is also Hypo A in the mix as well. This morph has been named by Brent as a Platinum (quite fitting actually). There does seem to be a difference in coloration from male to female in this mutation as well with the females being a little darker.

Male Platinum (Dakota Corns) - Anery + Charcoal + Hypo A

Female Platinum (PJC Reptiles) - Anery + Charcoal + Hypo A

Second up is a baby Anery Lavender that we produced this year and our adult male. They are definitely visually different then regular Lavenders right out of the egg. Being more greyer but seem to be more crisp in coloration. These also tend to have blue iris' when they hatch. This is probably caused by the Anery in them. As they get older they fade in coloration. Not in a bad way but in a way that makes the snake look cleaner.

Female Anery Lavender - (PJC Reptiles)

Male Anery Lavender - (Carol Huddleston)

Lastly is our Charcoal Lavender. As you can see this mutation is definitely different then the other two mutations I have posted. This girl does have the peachy pink coloration but also has a nice purpleish hue to her. Pictures really don't do her justice as the camera has a hard time capturing her true colors.

Female Charcoal Lavender - (Stephen Wagner)

Now back to your original question. I can not truly state that Anery A and Charcoal mask one another as I have not seen one in person, maybe we need Rich Z. to add a little input as he has produced them. I am sure that they do but maybe the mixture makes for a very clean looking Anery with more defined saddles and no yellow down the laterals. Anyway, as you can see, when the other Anerythristic alleles are mixed with one another they produce some very unique morphs that can be visually identified. Hope this helps and is what you were kind of looking for. :shrugs:

Jay

 

[Nanci]

"Crisp" is an excellent way of describing anery lavs, Jay.

 

[danielle]

I'd go with freaking hot PJ your male anery lav is a hottie!!!

 

[wstphal]

Jay, those are some gorgeous, gorgeous snakes. I gotta get me a Platinum in the future!

 

[PikaBun]

I am liking these combos!
( female platinum label has female anery lav photo under it )

 

[Susan]

I must be the weird one as I really can't see anything different about the anery lavs or charcoal lavs pictured. To me, they look like lavenders. I guess I really need to see them side-by-side with regular lavenders to notice the differences.

But then, maybe I'm not as weird as one might think as Jay's female platinum and female anery lavender look virtually identical, all the way down to the tiny little dot in the head pattern.

 

[Jay@PJCReptiles]

I am liking these combos!
( female platinum label has female anery lav photo under it )

Good catch. That's what I get for making a fancy looking post using links :shrugs: . I have now fixed it with the right picture. Again, thanks for pointing that out. Good catch.

Jay

 

[Jay@PJCReptiles]

I must be the weird one as I really can't see anything different about the anery lavs or charcoal lavs pictured. To me, they look like lavenders. I guess I really need to see them side-by-side with regular lavenders to notice the differences.

But then, maybe I'm not as weird as one might think as Jay's female platinum and female anery lavender look virtually identical, all the way down to the tiny little dot in the head pattern.

You caught my mistake as well Susan, thank you. I have now changed it.
Well, in order for you to see the differences between these mutations you are going to have to see them first hand. When can I send you a package?

Jay

 

[Susan]

You caught my mistake as well Susan, thank you. I have now changed it.
Well, in order for you to see the differences between these mutations you are going to have to see them first hand. When can I send you a package?

Jay

I'll have the opportunity to hopefully figure it out myself when I get to the F2 generation of a planned pairing for 2010...lavender motley X dilute anery motley. That's going to be a "fun" one to label the hatchlings on! :crazy01:

 

[Lynnea]

Here's my lavender motley. I don't know if he's homo anery, but bred to my ghost produced all ghosts! So there's hypo in the mix. But he does have a kind of interesting "greyness" to his markings, which makes me think he's homo anery. He's an '06 from Serpenco.