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My corns are inseparable

mbdorfer said:
Anyone notice that the poster of this thread has not been back since. Some of these replies were a little harsh, I thought. A simple "do a search" would have been sufficient, as opposed to a mass attack. What works for one, may or may not work for the other one. And yes, I've housed corns together in the past. Sorry, but I think our goal here should be to help, not intimidate. :wavey:
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"Intimidate" can be a subjective reaction to a behavior of another.

This is a public forum. Opinions are going to be expressed.

Sometimes people react to "nice" help as enabling. That is, some people need frank comments rather than ambiguous diplomacy.

IMO answering every common question with no more that "do a search" is a cop out. It also lessens the chance that a person will get specific input covering specific, faulty thinking.

There are many (pseudo) animal "lovers" who treat pets as if they are human-ie anthropomorphic thought. Sometimes this mind set can be so misguided and wrong as to result in neglect if not abuse.

You are obviously more inclined towards tact than I. It's good to have balance.
 
coyote said:
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There are many (pseudo) animal "lovers" who treat pets as if they are human-ie anthropomorphic thought. Sometimes this mind set can be so misguided and wrong as to result in neglect if not abuse..
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I remember a story where a woman loved her cat so much that she fed it 2.5 pounds of food every day. The ASPCA took the cat away weighing 40 pounds for abuse.
 
Preita said:
:headbang:

Why post these threads? A simple search shows you how people think about this. :twohammer:
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I've been thinking about that too. It seems to me that a lot of these people (not just this post, but posts about other topics that seem to come up a lot like this) are just looking for ONE other person who agrees with their way of thinking. It doesn't matter if 99 people voice a different opinion or throw facts and numbers around, as long as 1 other person agrees with them or can show some kind of "evidence" going against the other 99, then in the original poster's mind, their actions or thoughts are justified and they can go on and do whatever they want. I'm not saying it's like this in all cases, but there are certainly some out there that seem like it.
 
In all reality people are going to do what they are going to do. I just don't want to hear about the dumb things. Who cares who agrees with you if you are going against the best advice of experienced breeders. Because obviously some new person who wants to house their snakes together knows more than people who have been raising these animals for most of their lives :uhoh:
 
Ok, so I'm new to the forums. I've been a corn snake owner for about a year and 3 months now. I had originally bought one snake and later went into a very reputable store and saw 2 other corns that I liked. Not knowing any better I took them home and stuck them in a 10 gallon with my snake "Mary." At the time I knew very little of cannibalism and thought it only happened if there was a significant size difference between them and they weren't being fed properly. Understandably I should have read up on it but I hadn't. Thankfully I had no problems. My snakes got along fantastic and if I seperated them they also seemed to get stressed out and seemed eager to greet each other when reunited. If I took one out, I usually took them all out and they'd just hang out. Unfortunately, a friend left one of the clasps on the side of the lid on my tank off one day and the two newer snakes escaped but the point is, I had them housed together for a year with no problems. They were always taken out of their cages to be fed and always fed seperately. Just wanted to post my experience with housing multiple snakes together.
 
Melissa32483 said:
Ok, so I'm new to the forums. I've been a corn snake owner for about a year and 3 months now. I had originally bought one snake and later went into a very reputable store and saw 2 other corns that I liked. Not knowing any better I took them home and stuck them in a 10 gallon with my snake "Mary." At the time I knew very little of cannibalism and thought it only happened if there was a significant size difference between them and they weren't being fed properly. Understandably I should have read up on it but I hadn't. Thankfully I had no problems. My snakes got along fantastic and if I seperated them they also seemed to get stressed out and seemed eager to greet each other when reunited. If I took one out, I usually took them all out and they'd just hang out. Unfortunately, a friend left one of the clasps on the side of the lid on my tank off one day and the two newer snakes escaped but the point is, I had them housed together for a year with no problems. They were always taken out of their cages to be fed and always fed seperately. Just wanted to post my experience with housing multiple snakes together.
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....this thread is over 2 years old....
 
Joejr14 said:
....this thread is over 2 years old....
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It sure is, but you know that dead horse that is continually beaten around these parts? It may have just been dug up. :sobstory:
 
coyote said:
I think that some of your conclusions might be tainted with a little anthropomorphism.
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This month's cornsnakes.com "Understatement Of The Month".

"they again looked as if they greeted each other....." (Ah yes, the "Secret Handshake"...or Parseltongue, maybe?)

"and if snakes could smile and wag their tails, they did...." (If snakes can be cognitive of emotion, that is....)

"Kaa immediately began searching the viv...." (Kaa immediately scented rodents in the air)

Projection Ain't Just A Thing At The Movies.

regards,
jazz
 
jazzgeek said:
(Yeah, I'm adding to the horse-whipping. But dang, I thought it was a good line.) ;)
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Don't you know better? Every post just bumps this old thread. I wish everyone would stop posting so it would die.

(A little somethin' for the irony fans... ;) )
 
thenkyewvurramuch!
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2 corns together huh?

Let me tell you that my corns are 4 months old and I had them together for a couple of days when I learned that it's not good for there stress level. I have a friend that is really in to reptiles, and he used to have 2 rat snakes together, and they lived together for 8 months until one day he woke up and one of the snakes was missing. guess what came out of the one snake a week later. yeah that really sucks, and I can tell you that my 2 baby corns search around there cage too, especially at night. It doesn't mean there looking for each other.
 
Hi there, I would like to defend this poor woman who all of you are happily bashing. For one, the woman is a novice and is learning, just like you did, she obviously cares for her animals as she takes great pride in her tank. For a new snake handler that is important. The next idea to think of, when you go into a pet store to look at snakes, have you ever seen them housed together? I HAVE< FOR MANY YEARS. I have spoken to many people who activly collect and breed(proffessionally) and they say that there are only certain times of the year that you shouldn't house them together depending on the sex of your snakes. Young males together are fine, when you feed then, make sure to seperate them and wash there head afterward as they smell like food. As snakes don't have the greatest vision, if they smell or sense they will bite/eat. This has been a HUGE misconception of snakes being cannibals. USE SOME COMMON SENSE> If you want to have a girl and boy snake, ensure they are the right age to do so. Males will compete during breeding season and a male and female can create health risks if they aren't the right age.
I think that you are bashing this woman out of ignorance. Yes she made some rookie mistakes, but I bet you did too when you started.
So to the woman that originally posted this, follow your instincts with your pets, you will know what is best for them. Just be careful of mating season, feeding time and premature birthing. And just to respond to the fact that you think they are attached to eachother. I believe you. WATCH ANIMAL PLANET PEOPLE, SNAKES IN THE WILD ALL BALL TOGETHER, MATING SEASON OR NOT. and whether she has a natural environment or not, you can't beat animal instincts.
I have housed corns together and seperate them when the tank is too small. I watch there behavior and take caution.
Good Luck
 
[email protected] said:
Hi there, I would like to defend this poor woman who all of you are happily bashing. For one, the woman is a novice and is learning, just like you did, she obviously cares for her animals as she takes great pride in her tank. For a new snake handler that is important. The next idea to think of, when you go into a pet store to look at snakes, have you ever seen them housed together? I HAVE< FOR MANY YEARS. I have spoken to many people who activly collect and breed(proffessionally) and they say that there are only certain times of the year that you shouldn't house them together depending on the sex of your snakes. Young males together are fine, when you feed then, make sure to seperate them and wash there head afterward as they smell like food. As snakes don't have the greatest vision, if they smell or sense they will bite/eat. This has been a HUGE misconception of snakes being cannibals. USE SOME COMMON SENSE> If you want to have a girl and boy snake, ensure they are the right age to do so. Males will compete during breeding season and a male and female can create health risks if they aren't the right age.
I think that you are bashing this woman out of ignorance. Yes she made some rookie mistakes, but I bet you did too when you started.
So to the woman that originally posted this, follow your instincts with your pets, you will know what is best for them. Just be careful of mating season, feeding time and premature birthing. And just to respond to the fact that you think they are attached to eachother. I believe you. WATCH ANIMAL PLANET PEOPLE, SNAKES IN THE WILD ALL BALL TOGETHER, MATING SEASON OR NOT. and whether she has a natural environment or not, you can't beat animal instincts.
I have housed corns together and seperate them when the tank is too small. I watch there behavior and take caution.
Good Luck
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Okay.....

You dug up an almost 3 year old thread that was last replied to almost 6 months ago...

I highly doubt that the OP is even active here anymore...
 
Hi there, I would like to ask why you bumped a topic that ended about 4 months ago.
We've covered here or somewhere else every topic that you think validates this type of set up but I'll go into it again.
Have you noticed how petstores house every animal they own together? I've seen snakes that are named for eatting other snakes (hint: kingsnakes) housed together. Pet stores do what they do to save space, it's not economical for them to seperately house them. HOWEVER as a responsible pet owner if you do not have the space and hiterhero money to provide adequate housing for your animals that's not very responsible.
Young males are fine you say, but then what about their visible displays of stress like how they twitch incessantly when others move up against them?
In the wild the male and female snakes only come together for breeding. Even if they are proper breeding age why constantly subject a female to be constantly surrounded by a male "in heat" who would then take complete advantage of the situation and constantly trying to mate with her when all she wants to do is lay her eggs in peace?
I think you are defending this woman out of ignorance. You're new on this site and you're making some rookie mistakes.
Instincts aren't always right, that's why people come together and share knowledge and learn, in this day and age there is no good reason why one shouldn't do proper research before heading face first into keeping of exotic animals.
Snakes in the petstore also ball up together, we've all seen it. Want to know why? Best hiding spot, nature or simulated the reason is the same.

Good luck.
 
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