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Karl_Mcknight said:
#1. Many snakes are known to eat other snakes, King Snakes in particular. But Corn Snakes are also known to do that. Not saying your's will, but if it "Could Happen" then why risk it. I say keep them separate.

The reason i ask about this is because at a pet store and they have two baby corn snakes together and they do fine together. That is why i asked if baby corn snakes could be together at home in a tank.
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Pet stores are only meant to be temporary housing at best. They are moving large numbers of animals frequently through a small retail space. If they had an appropriate setup for every animal they sold they'd be out of retail space pretty quick. They are not the model you should use for your snake housing setup....
 
Karl_Mcknight said:
"Pet Stores" are among some of the worst places to get advice about pets, especially snakes
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^This. People here have more knowledge and experience than 99.9% of pet store employees. Pet store employees usually go through no specific or special training on reptile needs, they are hired as low wage retail employees. I'm sure there are exceptions to this, I hate to bash on pet shops, but you just see it so often these days :(

Anyway. There are a LOT of reasons why snakes living together isn't the best option. As we have already discussed. Some people do it with no problems, but that doesn't mean it's right or will work for you. There are NO reasons why it is good to cohabitate snakes. Risk outweighs benefit. So for me, it's an obvious choice.
 
Bloodredsnake said:
The reason i ask about this is because at a pet store and they have two baby corn snakes together and they do fine together. That is why i asked if baby corn snakes could be together at home in a tank.
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Baby corns are more likely to cannibalize a cage mate. Odds are probably 1 out of 100 or less though. It's not just the chance of cannibalism that cohabitation is wrong to do. It is also the possibility of transfer of diseases, bacteria, parasites, etc. What go's wrong with one tank mate will most likely go wrong with the others.
 
Zimmer said:
^This. People here have more knowledge and experience than 99.9% of pet store employees. Pet store employees usually go through no specific or special training on reptile needs, they are hired as low wage retail employees. I'm sure there are exceptions to this, I hate to bash on pet shops, but you just see it so often these days :(.
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You have to separate the "mom and pop" pet stores from the big box/chain stores. Advice from pet store employees is no different than advice on forums. You get info that can be from an expert to the inexperienced.
There currently pet store owners and employees on here.
It seems to me that most newbies will go with advice based on opinion than experience if that is the consensus of the majority.
 
daddio207 said:
You have to separate the "mom and pop" pet stores from the big box/chain stores. Advice from pet store employees is no different than advice on forums. You get info that can be from an expert to the inexperienced.
There currently pet store owners and employees on here.
It seems to me that most newbies will go with advice based on opinion than experience if that is the consensus of the majority.
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True. "Mom and Pop" shops are more likely to have knowledgeable staff, usually it's someone who's been in the hobby so long and love it so much they make a living out of doing it. Mainly I was assuming we were discussing "big name" pet stores, and in my experience those employees are simply trying to make a sale, and passing along whatever info they've been given to pass along. Like I said, there is definitely the minority of employees that are experienced and knowing, but this is far less frequent than the opposite scenario.

I'm sure there are people on this forum who are inexperienced as well but so far the original poster has gotten good advice from some experienced members and I was just trying to imply that they specifically probably knew what they were talking about more than the pet store.

Part of being a good pet owner is taking in all the information you get, good or bad, and sorting through it to figure out what works best for you, and your snake. Everyone's knowledge and skill levels are different but the information is out there :D
 
That is why I am doing all this research on corn snake I want to know everything I can about them before owning a snake. I want to be knowledgeable about them before I have one. I don't want any pet I have to die because I didn't know something about them
 
Zimmer said:
True. "Mom and Pop" shops are more likely to have knowledgeable staff, usually it's someone who's been in the hobby so long and love it so much they make a living out of doing it. Mainly I was assuming we were discussing "big name" pet stores, and in my experience those employees are simply trying to make a sale, and passing along whatever info they've been given to pass along. Like I said, there is definitely the minority of employees that are experienced and knowing, but this is far less frequent than the opposite scenario.

I'm sure there are people on this forum who are inexperienced as well but so far the original poster has gotten good advice from some experienced members and I was just trying to imply that they specifically probably knew what they were talking about more than the pet store.

Part of being a good pet owner is taking in all the information you get, good or bad, and sorting through it to figure out what works best for you, and your snake. Everyone's knowledge and skill levels are different but the information is out there :D
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I got where you were going :) This is what forums are about. You get a wide range of opinions from the expert to the newbie. I would hope that the expert advice would have more weight than the beginner to the hobby. There is no doubt that a high percentage of pet store employees have little to no experience in reptiles but give advice anyways. Most customers make the assumption that because they work there they must be knowledgeable and the employee gives advice not wanting to let the customer down. Same thing happens on forums too. I try mainly to correct what people quote as facts that in fact are not on here and in pet stores.

Bloodredsnake said:
That is why I am doing all this research on corn snake I want to know everything I can about them before owning a snake. I want to be knowledgeable about them before I have one. I don't want any pet I have to die because I didn't know something about them
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You are absolutely doing the right thing and I commend you! Keep an open mind to what seemingly doesn't make sense from the experienced herpetologist. We have already learned, sometimes painfully, from trail and error.
 
I got my baby corn at a mom and pop pet store. They sell mostly reptiles. I wouldn't get a snake online poor thing. The local mom and pops should have the mice you need. If you have to petsmart and Petco sell them too.

My mom and pop store is basically run by teenagers it seems. They gave me horrible advice. They told me id always have to feed mine live mice because that's how she started. So I bought a live pinky and cried. I was considering giving her up until I talked to a herpetologist who told me I got horrible advice and corns almost always take frozen thawed. And yup. Aurora took two frozen thawed pinkies yesterday with no problem.


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Don't forget expos and shows. If you have one in your area it can be a great place to get a snake. I got my Cleo at the big NARBC Tinley Park show last October. There were tons of corn snakes to choose from and there were some well known breeders/vendors there. After I asked to see her, they offered for me to hold her and I was a goner. The prices were excellent as well though bargain price is not my primary criteria.

All ways to buy a snake can be an excellent experience, or it can go awry. So far my experiences with store, expo, and shipped by breeder have been excellent. I also highly recommend looking at the ads on this forum and then contact the seller/breeder and ask any questions you have.

Whether it was in person or by photo and asking the breeder questions, I've known which snakes were right when I saw them. Trust your gut in that as well as studying what to look for in a healthy snake. I had read several books that explained what to look for when choosing a snake and that helps a lot. Be open and not locked into one morph either (for a pet, breeding has a different criteria), discovery is half the fun. I love belly checkers but I have a motley which has a plain belly because I was open to her. I wouldn't trade my butter motley girl for anything.

The Board of Inquiry can help you evaluate an unknown seller. It is linked from this forum.
 
cornsnakeaurora said:
I wouldn't get a snake online poor thing.
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Any corn you don't get directly from a breeder (especially at any of the big box stores) likely was shipped at some point. It's extremely rare for them to have any problems at all, as long as it's done properly. I'm even having a hatchling shipped from the UK this spring.
 
You probably already got the blood red but just putting out there, I have heard that blood reds are harder to feed.
 
Dragonling said:
Any corn you don't get directly from a breeder (especially at any of the big box stores) likely was shipped at some point. It's extremely rare for them to have any problems at all, as long as it's done properly. I'm even having a hatchling shipped from the UK this spring.
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So getting a snake from online is good or bad? I have been looking at the websites that sale snakes.
 
I don't know if it's bad or not I just feel bad for it. My snake was bred at the reptile mom and pop store.


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Bloodredsnake said:
It's ok i am open to hear all thoughts. I still haven't got a snake yet. I am making sure i know all i need to know before getting one.
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Karl_Mcknight said:
You heard wrong.
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Ok well, if blood red is a more exotic morph, then it would make sense if they were harder to feed because I also heard that more exotic (exotic may be the wrong word) morphs have more health problems, which makes sense because there would have been a lot of breeding involved to acquire exotic morphs.
 
The myth that bloodreds are notoriously bad feeders has been circulating since their discovery. My fire is a little garbage disposal.
 
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