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Opinion: WORST pet snake?

davidseddie said:
wow your mature. i think robbie should just stick to what he knows and green anacondas surely isn't one of them. it really annoys me when people comment on species they have never owned.
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And how would you have any idea on what he has or has not owned? You're the 'mature' one here...attacking people you've never met and have no knowledge of. Once again, your bridge is getting lonely without you. I'm finished here.
 
Hallie said:
And how would you have any idea on what he has or has not owned? You're the 'mature' one here...attacking people you've never met and have no knowledge of. Once again, your bridge is getting lonely without you. I'm finished here.
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attacking?:roflmao: how old are you? i didn't attack anyone:roflmao: all i said was why comment on something he knows nothing about. if you think thats an attack then you seriously have problems
 
RobbiesCornField said:
So... the 98% (roughly) of the green 'condas I've seen that are aggressive was just a fluke? :shrugs: The ONLY "tame" green 'conda I've seen is one called "Andy" that frequents the Florida reptile shows.
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It really depends where the 50 Anaconda's you have seen came from.
I suspect they were wild caught as near adult if they were that aggressive (though you will get the odd anything that doesn't want to tame down)
Andy is probably a cb and been treated as a pet all its life.
I have to agree with David here and say that Anacondas get bad press from the old days and people just keep repeating it over and over...
I owned an Anaconda and mine was wild caught and it was near adult when I got it.... It was savage to start with but with time and effort it calmed down....
 
davidseddie said:
you don't know what your talking. you have never owned one. my friend has kept and bred green anacondas for over 30 years so that kinder proves you wrong. please don't comment on species you have no clue about.
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Would you look at that! He really IS "the NEW David"! Oh dang... they already banned him. At least he'll be back in 3 days. :D

snakewispera snr said:
It really depends where the 50 Anaconda's you have seen came from.
I suspect they were wild caught as near adult if they were that aggressive (though you will get the odd anything that doesn't want to tame down)
Andy is probably a cb and been treated as a pet all its life.
I have to agree with David here and say that Anacondas get bad press from the old days and people just keep repeating it over and over...
I owned an Anaconda and mine was wild caught and it was near adult when I got it.... It was savage to start with but with time and effort it calmed down....
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I've only seen a few subadults/adults, and every single one (save for Andy) has been rather aggressive. All of the babies I've seen were more aggressive than the adults, though. But that's only for the Green anacondas. I've also seen several yellows, and all of them have been sweet as pie.
 
RobbiesCornField said:
I've only seen a few subadults/adults, and every single one (save for Andy) has been rather aggressive. All of the babies I've seen were more aggressive than the adults, though. But that's only for the Green anacondas. I've also seen several yellows, and all of them have been sweet as pie.
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All of my carpet babies are aggressive but the adults are nice as pie, and come to that lots of cornsnakes have hatelings.....
Babies have to be aggressive....
I've seen the aggressive conda as well, but when they are cb and brought up as pets they are as stupid as Burms.....
 
davidseddie said:
who ever said green anacondas are aggressive just don't know the species
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Thou doth protest too much.

Whether you think they are aggressive or not is beyond the point. It's still pretty obvious that an anaconda is going to be a harder animal to take care of than a corn snake...particularly for a beginner.
 
ZoologyGirl said:
It's still pretty obvious that an anaconda is going to be a harder animal to take care of than a corn snake...particularly for a beginner.
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I don't think he's disputing that they will be more demanding than a corn (corns are the easiest though)
And I had one as a beginner and Kathy had one as a 17 yo............
 
snakewispera snr said:
I don't think he's disputing that they will be more demanding than a corn (corns are the easiest though)
And I had one as a beginner and Kathy had one as a 17 yo............
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Yes, she had one when she was 17. She also goes on to say

"I would have to say I don't recommend them to anyone, and will never keep them again myself, either. In general, they seemed messier, more prone to biting, and just not as interesting as other big snakes."
 
ZoologyGirl said:
And would you recommend it to a beginner?
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Why not, as long as the person had done the research and knew what to expect..... Had spent time with the breeder and seen handled adults, whats the problem.....
Not everyone needs or has a corn to start out with....
My mate started out with a GTP as a beginner and then an ETB....
He has over $500,000 worth of snakes now and he started out only two years ago.... And only just recently bought a corn.....
 
VickyChaiTea said:
Yes, she had one when she was 17. She also goes on to say

"I would have to say I don't recommend them to anyone, and will never keep them again myself, either. In general, they seemed messier, more prone to biting, and just not as interesting as other big snakes."
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So they didn't suit her, what does that prove.....
I wouldn't have another one as they smell and always dump in their water....
Doesn't mean they are not for everybody though does it?
I wouldn't have another Bp if it was up to me.... Doesn't make them a bad first snake though does it?
 
snakewispera snr said:
Why not, as long as the person had done the research and knew what to expect..... Had spent time with the breeder and seen handled adults, whats the problem.....
Not everyone needs or has a corn to start out with....
My mate started out with a GTP as a beginner and then an ETB....
He has over $500,000 worth of snakes now and he started out only two years ago.... And only just recently bought a corn.....
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Well that's your prerogative then. I personally would not recommend them to a beginner. Does a corn snake have to be a first snake? Absolutely not. I think a GTP would be an ok first snake for anyone who does proper research, and preferably the snake being CBB. Would I recommend an anaconda as a first snake? Probably not, unless the person has had experience with caring/handling snakes for many years and just has not owned one yet.
 
ZoologyGirl said:
Well that's your prerogative then. I personally would not recommend them to a beginner. Does a corn snake have to be a first snake? Absolutely not. I think a GTP would be an ok first snake for anyone who does proper research, and preferably the snake being CBB. Would I recommend an anaconda as a first snake? Probably not, unless the person has had experience with caring/handling snakes for many years and just has not owned one yet.
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So you would recommend a snake that have very particular needs to survive in captivity, to a beginner..... But one that is easy to look after, you wouldn't......
Condas grow very slow.... By the time it was big enough to harm him badly he would of had it for years.... And therefore not a beginner anymore...
 
I'm not going to argue it anymore, there is nothing to argue about really. You'd recommend one to a beginner, I wouldn't. End of story.
 
I talk to a LOT of beginners. And some of them have trouble grasping some basic keeper concepts, even with corns. Although a few bright, "animal whisperer" type people seem to have a way with all kinds of animals, and are able to take on more difficult species totally unfamiliar with them, I would always advise beginners to start with easier, more manageable species. Why set them up for less likelihood of success if they are more likely to succeed, and stay in the hobby, with something more appropriate for their experience and skill level? I would never say that NO beginner could ever start successfully with anacondas, or even a rattlesnake. Each person is different. But unless it is a very unusual circumstance, I would very likely advise them to start with the closest type of snake or lizard to what they THINK they want, but which I think they will likely be happier with. For example, start with a boa if you like giant snakes, an Amazon tree boa if you like emerald tree boas, or a corn if you like more difficult colubrids such as Mandarins. Of course, they are free to ignore my recommendations, and many do, lol!

Unless they have done a TON of research, I think that after interviewing the novice, I will probably be in a better position to evaluate their likelihood of success and happiness with an unfamiliar species of reptile than they themselves will be. However, I should point out that I DO try to keep my own personal likes and dislikes out of the equation, and try to evaluate with facts and honesty. If I mention my own preferences, I try to let it be known as just my own opinion. After all, they do eventually have to make their own choice, and live with the consequences they decide upon.
 
If you're wanting something big, demanding, advanced, and possibly aggressive like a Conda or a Tic because you've kept some corns and think you know a lot, my suggestion would be the same as that to somebody who wants a hot. Get an ATB, ETB, or some other aggressive, not so large animal, and get used to being struck at and constantly monitoring humidity and temp levels. Safer and makes you aware of how quickly you can get nailed without the same consequences. Just my opinion to our newest David and anybody else who thinks jumping into a conda or a tic after owning a corn is a good idea.
 
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