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opinions please

From the pics they both look like amel zig zags to me :) Amels are very variable in their coloration. As for if they are creamsicles or not, you would need to know if there is any Emoryi in their bloodline... Creamsicles are just amelanistic Corn x Emory Rat Snake hybrids.. But just plain amelanistic corns can come in many different shades. I hatched out a bunch of lighter colored amels this year that are definitely NOT creamsicles... Good luck, you should get a nice clutch of amels and amel zig zags as long as there are no hidden hets...

Drizzt, you are silly but I still love you ;)
 
dirtydozen said:
what a bunch of a holes there is on this forum, i was warned but there you go
D80 you need to get a life

What is wrong with putting a pic up and asking for opinion, i was asking for opinions on the snakes why is that such a hard concept to grab
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I think d80 comments were spot on and funny.(Since the time I have been here, he is far from being an Ahole) If I were you and had forgotten to ask a direct question and then saw his comments, I would of put my head down in shame, then laughed it off...Then clarify what I meant

We come from all over the world on this site. We have different ways of looking at things and different ways of expressing our opinions. He could of said something like Duh, What opinion?? and so on. Or he could make it funny where more people would be intrested in looking at the post, Remember we are not mind readers.. Now to the task at hand

They appear to be Amels(very nice ones at that)very healthy looking. If the one is a Creamsicle you'll have to prove it out through breeding like everyone has mentioned. Good luck on your efforts....
 
yes i understand that morphs do vary greatly but it was just with her very closely resembling a fire and the belly checkers being faint maybe het blood? She will be put to a blood to see the outcome.

Also both of the belly checkers totally dissapear at the bottom of the snakes, both snakes lot like they are motleys if you just look at the bottom, more in the female
 
My anery A, absolutely no way of being het blood, has largish clear stripe down his belly. So did a silver queen I ghost I had. So does the charcoal-thingy that I got from petco. Decreased checkers like that are absolutely no way to guess on hets when the parentage is not known.

In the belly shots you provided, I see lots of checkering in every photo. A small stripe like that doesn't indicate much at all.
 
There's no harm, but what are you going to do with a bunch of normal offspring if she is not het blood?
 
So then you will get amels definitely het fire... Are there local stores willing to take them?
 
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One of the easiest way to see, "What I might get", is to go to one of the corn calculator punch in what you do know from all or any of the breedings in the past. Mess around with different potiental mates and poss hets. Figure out which of those possible matings is what you wanna get out of a clutch. Even some of the veteran breeders get funky hets that they had no clue where there.
 
I had a really cool, well thought out, quoted, nit picky response but decided to scrap it.

What I now think is that if your skin is that thin, don't you dare enter the realm of General Chit Chat. I think you may spontaneously combust.

D80

PS. As for being an a hole I have two standard responses to that:
A. Better than being the whole a.
and
2. I've been called worse by my own mother. Good luck with that.
 
dirtydozen said:
what a bunch of a holes there is on this forum, i was warned but there you go
D80 you need to get a life

they are cohab as iam trying to mate them, they do need to be together to do that you know.

Poo is there as i have taken pics as iam about the clean them, cant you see that its fresh??

What is wrong with putting a pic up and asking for opinion, i was asking for opinions on the snakes why is that such a hard concept to grab
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In my opinion you should've taken the blue pill...doesn't look like you can handle the red pill...IMO.
 
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