• Hello!

    Either you have not registered on this site yet, or you are registered but have not logged in. In either case, you will not be able to use the full functionality of this site until you have registered, and then logged in after your registration has been approved.

    Registration is FREE, so please register so you can participate instead of remaining a lurker....

    Please be certain that the location field is correctly filled out when you register. All registrations that appear to be bogus will be rejected. Which means that if your location field does NOT match the actual location of your registration IP address, then your registration will be rejected.

    Sorry about the strictness of this requirement, but it is necessary to block spammers and scammers at the door as much as possible.

peach hypo what do you think it should be called

Peach hypo what do you think it should be called

  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .
jzal8 said:
Hey don't get me wrong, like any hobby you should do it your way as long as it is a way that gives you pleasure and satisfaction. I'd just suggest that if that is your approach, I wouldnt come out and start telling people this is a hypo peach.

Well is there hypo in there? maybe. What is peach? maybe this and that, could be another thing.

That really isnt the way to go about naming a morph. Instead you should come to everyone and say "Hey i got this crazy looking corn, looks peachy and might have some hypo effects. Not too sure what the genetic makeup is, but jeez it sure is a beautiful looking corn."

I guarantee if you came forward like that, you'd get a much more positive response. You trying to name this morph is like me being handed a coca cola and deciding to name it "matt's super happy drink". I have no idea what the Coca Cola's secrect recipe is made up of, and there for i cannot name it because i don't have any clue of how to reproduce it.

That's all i'm saying, guy. :)
Click to expand...

I'm pretty sure what it is a amber lavender . this is my oppion allways welcome any bodys elses oppion too. The name is describing the color at hand. I not puting any one down on what they might think it is . I know the genetic make up of the parents and grandparents and have no problem discussing it with anyone. Nowwhere have you seen me on this therad tell anyone dont tell me what it is or you dont know what you are talking about. any negitave like that . I'm all ears and dont mind discussing it
 
Mrs InsaneOne said:
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to SilentLore again."

Sorry, I tried.

Jenn
Click to expand...

I succeeded, cause I laughed my ass off! And that is difficult cause it is BIG! :roflmao:

I really do not understand people whom are breeding nice colors but have no interest in genetics... for me that is like 1+1=3 ...... And trying to force your label on some 'what is it' corn only adds to the unprofessional attitude. I sincerely hope if your pink corn turns out to be a new combined, reproducable morph, it will be called; 'The morph Vinman wanted to name but did not deserve too'. And yes, I do know this is a rude comment... I just read the exhausting thread on the cooked meat feeding experiment and there is something horribly wrong with your attitude. You do NOT post to help us or to sincerily listen to what others have to say, you post solely to boost your ego! If you do, spelling and grammar is not the problem that is in the way of expressing your nice intentions, but the other personality that takes over when you are typing, is!
 
I'm into making new colors and not to know what is the genetic make up.
Click to expand...

Wow... huh. Okay... So in other words, "I've got a new morph but refuse to prove it out because I don't wanna, but I still get to give it a name cuz I made it first!"

Honestly, if you can't describe exactly what IT is, how do you really expect a name to stick? It's like Pearl corns... nobody knew what the heck was in them, and now the name has fallen into disuse.

It's like claiming you have a recipie for "Vinny's Brownies" and all you do is dump a bunch of ingredients together and sometimes you get brownies, sometimes you get inedible sludge.

-Kat
 
your intiled to your oppion asnd rant with your friends all you want It is all of you with the negitive attude not me .
 
Vinman said:
I'm pretty sure what it is a amber lavender . this is my oppion allways welcome any bodys elses oppion too. The name is describing the color at hand. I not puting any one down on what they might think it is . I know the genetic make up of the parents and grandparents and have no problem discussing it with anyone.
Click to expand...
How do you justify calling it an amber lavender when you can't be bothered to do the breeding trials to determine the truth behind that statement? How can you be sure that the color you see now is going to be the color of the adult?

Vinman said:
Nowwhere have you seen me on this therad tell anyone dont tell me what it is or you dont know what you are talking about. any negitave like that . I'm all ears and dont mind discussing it
Click to expand...
Do you honestly believe what you just said? How do you expect anyone to believe that statement after reading the 7+ pages of the thread? Do you sleep very well at night?
 
kat yes I just want to make colors that fact that they are genetic is all I care about I had A talk with rich z on this subject . He is tired of telling everybody how to make new morphs then instead of buying them people will get the mutations and make it them selfs. I on the other hand dont care what is making what as long as i can reproduce it .I don care if it is high or low price.
 
Vinman said:
kat yes I just want to make colors that fact that they are genetic is all I care about I had A talk with rich z on this subject . He is tired of telling everybody how to make new morphs then instead of buying them people will get the mutations and make it them selfs. I on the other hand dont care what is making what as long as i can reproduce it .I don care if it is high or low price.
Click to expand...
You are aware of the fact that you just contradicted yourself in this statement right? At least twice.
 
Vinman said:
kat yes I just want to make colors that fact that they are genetic is all I care about I had A talk with rich z on this subject . He is tired of telling everybody how to make new morphs then instead of buying them people will get the mutations and make it them selfs. I on the other hand dont care what is making what as long as i can reproduce it .I don care if it is high or low price.
Click to expand...

I seriously think your future customers would want to know about the genetic make up or just won't buy them if not for low prices.... maybe some pet snake keepers, but since I do not believe you will sell any of them for prices pet keepers are willing to pay.... are you gonna keep them for yourself?
 
Vinman said:
keep ranting I'm getting a kick out of all this it is quite funny
Click to expand...

We already figured you get a kick out of this..... such a good reason to make weird new threads, right?
 
Vinman said:
keep ranting :dancer:
Click to expand...

If you really had nice intentions, you'd feel bad about it and close the thread for us unthankfull posters... another proof you are only here to boost your ego or to make long threads..... we should stop indeed spilling time on this...at the other hand, we had some fun too, right guys?

I must admit I respect Vinman for not getting really angry, but I would have liked to see him banned.
 
I kept telling myself I wasn't going to post to this thread, but after reading it all the way through last night, and then the additional posts this morning I just can't help myself.

First...I want to thank Kat, Serp, Jazz and the many, many others who posted legitimate questions and brought up many valid points, not just about the morph, but about the stance/attitude of Vinman. I would love to rep each of you but "you must spread some reputation"....

Second, I also want to thank Rich Hume for adding his very appreciated insight into this discussion in a manner clear enough that even a newbie like myself could follow and understand.

Third...something that stood out to me through this whole thread was Vinman trying to say that this was a "poll only" and not a discussion thread....

The Internet definition of Forum:
Noun
forum (plural: fora or forums)

A place for discussion.
A gathering for the purpose of discussion.
A form of discussion involving a panel of presenters and often participation by members of the audience.
An Internet message board where users can post messages regarding one or more topics of discussion.

See the pattern?

This is a Cornsnake Forum run by Rich Z, not you, which means that any thread or post is open and eligible for discussion unless the moderator states otherwise. If you don't like it, then start your own forum where you can make your own rules. In the meantime, if you are going to post on this forum - keep in mind that debate, discussion and the exchange of ideas and knowledge is welcomed and encouraged here.

I did not see a single post, not one (and I have read through this entire thread twice), where ANYONE told you that you were not allowed to name this morph whatever you wanted. People made suggestions on if a certain name would be appropriate or not, they made suggestions that you might want to wait until breeding trials proved this morph out, but not a single person told you that you "Could Not" name this morph what you wanted. You seem to feel that everyone is attacking you for voicing their opinions, and when you do, you attack back, which then provokes people to actually attack you.

You start a poll, but then expect everyone to just agree with everything that you say. It doesn't work that way. People are going to discuss the pros and cons of any options provided. Just because they aren't the answers you are looking for does not make them wrong, they are voicing their opinions just as you are. If you don't want to listen to the advice of other reputable people in the industry, then there isn't much point in posting a poll in the first place.

Quite frankly, from my own point of view, I would not purchase a snake, any snake, from you without proven breeding trials so that I knew what I was getting. Just breeding for color without understanding what you are doing is not very intelligent, although you may have fun doing it. Just don't expect the reputable breeders and hobbyists in the industry to want to do business with you.

Finally, I have to agree with Bluetengel that at this point we are all just encouraging more poor behavior by trying to make Vinman understand any of our points of view regardless of how valid they are. He is so determined that he is right and all of us are wrong, that to keep responding to him is just making the situation worse. I probably shouldn't have posted this either as now I am also at fault, but needed to get some of this off of my chest.
 
ArpeggioAngel i was not saying you cant discuss this subject . it is that there already was a thread to discuss this subject. I stated on that thread that I would put up a poll on what do you think it should be called. it does not make sinse to talk about the same subject on two sepreate threads. It just add to the confusion. all I wanted to do on this thread was start a poll it is that simple
 
You just want to "make new colours." Hmm. Unforunately, animals are not quite that simple. You can't just throw things together without knowing the genetics, the particulars, and expect something amazing, not if your goal is to create exciting collectors animals. You can't throw red and yellow together and get spangly, glittery, iridescent purple.

If you have managed to breed a new morph, you seem to think you can slap your title on it and everyone will fall at your feet begging for a wondersnake. Do you think when crimsons were first bred, the breeder ran up to his companions and said "Do you think Crimson is a good name? What do you suggest?" and he got some suggestions and then shouted and screamed "But i thought of Crimson! It's MY snake! I bred it, not YOU!" He could have said "Thanks, but I do really like Crimson." And believe me, he's the one people will buy the new exciting morph from.

I wouldn't expect a four-year-old to draw a monster, and then lie on the floor kicking and screaming because I suggested a name for it.

I know I shouldn't get involved in these threads but I just couldn't help myself. Sorry if I sounded too harsh... I'm tired.
 
I would be hesitant to call it anything but a "? corn" until you are sure it is a reproducible look. Plus, if I read some of the background on the animal, the type of hypo involved is still unknown.

Since you and Rich are from New York, how about calling it a "Those damn Yankees!" corn ;)
 
To be honest the snake just looks like a vomity amber/butter masked in shed! I would call it "scotch mist"... :rolleyes:

The morph does not appeal to me because the person who produced it has given me zitch genetics/parents/what to expect wise. Keep your mystery thingymebob. Its certainly not appealing right now.

I think you should record this particular snakes development till adulthood, take some spelling and grammar classes, improve your people skills and come back in a few years Vinny.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top