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Quint hets...

Of course it does Nanci! :p

Anyway, I have convinced myself NOT to buy them. I always swore I would never buy a snake for what it can give me and thats exactly what I would be doing here which is totally unfair to the animals. I don't want to raise normals for the next 10+ years when I don't find them that attractive. I can buy what I'm looking for in a couple of years time when the price comes down and when I have spare space and time to dedicate to them.

I think quad hets would just frustrate me.
 
My new theory is if you can't afford the quad homo, then at least the double homo/double het is probably still a beautiful snake, and not quite as boring as a quad het.
 
Not to take from your topic Elle, if you want I'll create a seperate one.
But this got me wondering as to how many breeders and other hobbyist do purchase snakes just because they have a multitude of hets.
For example if I bred Nagini to Solstice I would churn out Homo Normals het amel,anery a, anery b, hypo and motely stripe.
I honestly figured that doing this breeding project, while not producing anything specatcular seemed like a good way to secure the babies homes with some responsible people as I was assuming that breeders would love what they were carrying.
 
Well Jen, like I said, I swore I would never buy a snake for what it will give me in the longrun. I want to own snakes that I think are gorgeous regardless of their popularity in the hobby or their price. I want them to make me go "woaza" everytime I open their box. And so far, every single one of my snakes do that for me!

My snakes are foremost pets that I enjoy catering for. I love the work involved... When It gets to the point where I no longer feel like changing their water or procrastinate about cleaning night, I'll have failed myself and my snakes. It's a hobby for me, not a lifestyle or a business or something to make money from. But then again IT IS for other people...
 
Well I wasn't necessarily directing it straight to you, because I know how you feel about your snakes :) I love my babies too, which is why if I did breed them it's just to experience another step of the hobby, not to make the money.
 
Tula_Montage said:
Perhaps I should hit the bottle for an hour or so before bed so get corn genetics out my head... ahhh.
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Right before the super nightmare that woke me up for good at 4:15, I was having some sort of urgent dream about I needed to buy a Caramel Stripe to go with some other snake. It carried through till this morning, even, and I had to look at the Genetics program to see if I was missing out by not buying one.
 
LOL Nanci I frequently have snake dreams like that hahahah.

Jenn, I know you weren't directing it at me. I'm thinking out loud to justify my descision not to buy these snakes. I don't need them, I have hatchlings coming and I'm almost at full adult sized housing capacity. It's so easy to buy baby snakes and forget that you need room to house them as adults :p
 
Corny Noob said:
But this got me wondering as to how many breeders and other hobbyist do purchase snakes just because they have a multitude of hets.
For example if I bred Nagini to Solstice I would churn out Homo Normals het amel,anery a, anery b, hypo and motely stripe.
I honestly figured that doing this breeding project, while not producing anything specatcular seemed like a good way to secure the babies homes with some responsible people as I was assuming that breeders would love what they were carrying.
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Many breeders purchase snakes just because of a multitude of hets, and not necessarily for the physical appearance of the snakes themselves. Even if they don't purchase them, they certainly hold back lots of multi-het offspring. That's how you produce novel combos.

In some ways, even for casual breeders, these multi-het animals can be a real shortcut, and economical too. I wish I'd given it more thought before I bought a lot of my stuff. If you want to make hypo-lav-bloods, and you're not all that interested in just having the parent morphs, why raise a hypo-lav and blood pair to adulthood if Joe Breeder has already done the same thing and he has the triple hets available at a reasonable price? If space and money are issues, it's a good choice.
 
I agree Dean. I would feel disapointed buying a lavender and a hypo blood to breed together and only getting normals in return... If my sole intention was to produce hypo lav bloods that is. 6 years down the line I may have a produced the illusive hypo lav blood, but by then they are affordable.

I think Im going to wait it out and just buy the morph I am after in a few years time. I don't particuarly want to take on more worms when I may have 15+ on the way...
 
Tula_Montage said:
I agree Dean. I would feel disapointed buying a lavender and a hypo blood to breed together and only getting normals in return... If my sole intention was to produce hypo lav bloods that is. 6 years down the line I may have a produced the illusive hypo lav blood, but by then they are affordable.

I think Im going to wait it out and just buy the morph I am after in a few years time. I don't particuarly want to take on more worms when I may have 15+ on the way...
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Yep. There are other factors too, as we've discussed. If you really don't like looking at normals, and if you're not in a race to produce something new, but you have a target morph in mind that doesn't yet exist or is too expensive to consider, patience is your best bet. This is especially true in corns, where the prices plummet after there's a reasonable amount of access to a morph. Lav-blood and cinder are instructive examples. I've been very impatient, and I've paid the price (literally)...
 
I like worms. Except for housing issues. It takes 30 seconds to thaw their food, and another 30 seconds to eat it! I can feed the three babes _and_ scrub their water bowls in ten minutes after arriving home from work!
 
I much prefer adult snakes. Worms are fun to look after, but I just don't enjoy spending time with them...

Dean, thanks for your input both publically and privatley. I do appreciate it and I know I have made the right descision. I think LOL
 
Well see I don't mind the look of Normals.
So I figured, as I stated previously, that breeding out normals but with a slew of hets seemed like the logical thing to do.
That way I still get to keep my favorites, they have awesome genes if I ever want to breed them, and I feel it would be easier to find them good homes based on the knowledge that a lot of people will crave animals that are ready to just produce all sorts of different morphs.
...yes? I'm so underconfident, lol.
 
I very well know I will produce some different stuff on the way to my target animal.. My perspective is quite simple, produce some neat stuff along the way while I am keeping perspoective on my final out come.. If I can get some assistance along the way to pay for food, that is a big help..

Regards. Tim of T and J
 
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