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Should I be worried (late unintentional breeding)

SilverWolf

Alpha Wolf
Ok, so today the bf and I went to my house to feed the snakes. I was in the other room getting the mice thawed and checking on the ones I have in the dining room. Well, I went into the room where the others are and I see that my bf has put Ruby my female amel in with Red my hypo stripe male. Now I had no intention to breed this year if I even breed at all. So I was pretty ticked off. Bf was just laughing and taking pics. :rolleyes:
So I guess I'm wondering if I should be worried about her being bred this late in the year? I'm not sure if they did the deed or not, as I didn't leave her in there very long after I saw what the bf had done. I'll include a couple pics he took. Any advice would be good. By the way Ruby the female is over 3 years and over 3 ft, but not quite 300grams yet. I weighed her tonight and she was 280grams. And the male is definitely bigger than she is.
So should I be worried?

Thanks!

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SilverWolf said:
I'll include a couple pics he took. Any advice would be good.
Well, what's done is done. I've heard of 280 gram snakes laying healthy eggs. If she is gravid, she'll probably start packing on some weight over the next month.

As for the advice? Tell your boyfriend to keep the pictures since it's the only action he'll be seeing for a while.:grin01:
 
dwyn127 said:
As for the advice? Tell your boyfriend to keep the pictures since it's the only action he'll be seeing for a while.:grin01:

:eek1: :bang: :grin01:

Maybe that was the reason he put them together in the first place... :sidestep:
 
On a more serious note, she will be fine. My fiancee had an accidental mating earlier this year with a 230g female barely 2yrs of age. She laid 13 perfect eggs and came out of the ordeal in good order. :cheers:
 
If those were my snakes, the bf would have cause to be worried. Hopefully the snakes didn't hook-up, but if your female does show signs of being gravid I'd get him to supply and set up an incubator, and save some money in case there are problems (for the vet bills). Kathy Love and others have successfully bred females under 300grams, but its not recommended (as you obviously know).
 
Thanks! As for the boyfriend he's in the dog house for sure! I haven't spoken to him since it happened, well except maybe to say "what the heck were you thinking" and just roll my eyes and walk away. lol And there are locks on the cages now. Which is something I should have had on them already.

If she does end up laying eggs we already have an incubator that he bought for our Bearded Dragons. So that part shouldn't be a problem. I just knew I wasn't ready to breed any of my snakes as I haven't done all the research that I need to do prior to doing it. Besides the fact that only the one male is ready to breed anyway. I'm one of those people who read a lot and read some more before doing something. Obviously my bf is not.

But it's good to know I can come on here and get some great advice and help from more experienced people.

Thanks!
 
As for breeding this time of year, it's completely natural. After, all, this is the time of year many hook-up in the wild. It's not funny what your boyfriend did, but just think, it could always be worse... he could have done a few months ago when she was smaller, right? As far as being gravid, as others have said, only time will tell. If you're not ready to breed her yet, just cross your fingers... what is meant to be will happen.

BTW, where in Missouri are you from?
 
Well, I'm glad to hear that the time of year isn't a problem. I just saw a lot of people seemed to have already started their breeding. I'll just keep a close eye on her and see what happens. I just don't want anything bad to happen to her, she's quickly becoming my favorite. And to think I almost didn't buy her. I would love to find out if she is het for bloodred like the breeder thought, but I just would rather everything be ideal.

jmksnakes: I live just south of Kansas City, MO.

Thanks again for everyones advice and comments! I'll keep the telling the bf I'm pregnant one in mind. lol
 
It makes me wonder about someone who would do something that irresponsible and think it's funny. It troubles me more than knowing that your 280 gram female was bred. I'd dump the boyfriend before he does something more serious than that. Feed her up good. All my females routinely lose more than 100 grams after laying. My 330 gram female had a very hard time recovering from laying and yours weighs less than mine did. I'm sure she'll do fine nonetheless although I'd recommend making sure she gets plenty of exercise to keep her muscles well-toned before laying.
 
Silverwolf: I grew up in Lee's Summit and I have family in Belton too, are you close to there? It's a small world isn't it?
 
I'm not sure 20g is really going to make a huge difference if the female was in good shape to start with. I agree it's not ideal, but neither is it the "OMG my 100g 18 month old was mating wot do I do?" horror story that we sometimes hear.

Any Corn of any weight or age can have a hard time laying. I had two females lay one day after the other, last week. Both well over 300g and 3 years old, in good health. Both laid 16 smallish sized eggs.

One collapsed in a heap for three days, had to have a mouse put in the laying box with her before she'd eat and looks like she's been deflated. The other was bombing round her viv happy as Larry 12 hours later, eating as normal, and frankly, you wouldn't know she'd laid a full clutch to look at her.

Reslience to the arduous process of egg-laying might be equal parts nature and nurture.

If the gal has good genes and you give her plenty of TLC now, you should have no trouble. My top tip would be to put a calcium+vitamin D supplement in her water - I use ZolCal-D.

Fingers crossed...
 
My goodness. If that were my bf....he wouldn't live to see tomorrow. Jeremy won't even go near my snakes. (I think he is a tad bit afraid of them after getting bit by my ratsnake. :grin01: ) I have heard of females that aren't quite 300g lay healthy eggs and have made it through Ok. I hope everything goes well and I agree with Lennycorn, wait a few weeks and then tell your bf you are preggo lol!
 
jmksnakes: I actually do live in Belton. :) Yes it is a small world. lol

As for the bf he is being very very nice to me lately. But I'm pretty much over it, what is done is done. He just won't be able to touch any of the snakes without me there. Gotta love locks. :)

Someone mentioned making sure she got plenty of exercise to keep her well toned. Usually what is the best way for a snake to get exercise? Sorry if that sounds really novice.

Thanks again for all the great advice and just being there. :)
 
Just handle her once or twice a day for about 15 minutes or so. Let her move across and over your hands or putting her on "messy" bed works pretty good too... she'll crawl through and over sheets and pillows and get her exercise that way. If you think a poop is imminent... let her crawl on your boyfriend's side of the bed! Ha, Ha.
 
jmksnakes said:
Just handle her once or twice a day for about 15 minutes or so. Let her move across and over your hands or putting her on "messy" bed works pretty good too... she'll crawl through and over sheets and pillows and get her exercise that way. If you think a poop is imminent... let her crawl on your boyfriend's side of the bed! Ha, Ha.
Blecch. Corns crawl through their own waste, and they have contact with feeder rodents. They're not crawling on MY bed. :puke01:
 
Oh Dean, love is blind, and I guess it can't smell very good either! I haven't done that much, but it did work good... and yes the sheets were washed that night, I had the same thoughts you did.
 
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