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Texas and Indigos?

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tom e

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My girlfriend is a teacher and has had it with the CA teaching situation.. The situation is that there are no jobs for a beginning teacher with a masters.
She's looking at other states for teaching jobs. One that she feels pretty good about her chances with is Texas.

Technically, I don't have much say because I'll be starting school full time, and with the GI Bill I can do that anywhere. So perhaps we will be in Texas.

I've read elsewhere that Texas makes it near impossible to own a Texas Indigo, but I've also read that the way the law is written, it treats the whole Genus the same way. I have an Eastern, and won't go to Texas if I can't bring him along.

Anybody know if that's going to be a problem for me?

(I also have an email in to Texas DNR but I was hoping someone here would know faster.. ;))
 
Thanks a bunch Kelly! I talked to someone at the DNR who transferred me to someone in permits. It's sounding like I would need a permit, but the first person I talked wasn't sure. I have a message in there as well now.
I sure hope it's a permit that is possible, not one of those that you just can't get unless you're a zoo or a college.. Or better yet, if the person I'm waiting for in permits lets me know it's not needed for an Eastern.
 
Still haven't heard back, but I did find the Texas Parks and Wildlife Endangered and Threatened species list.
'Drymarchon corais- Indigo Snake' is how it's shown. Doesn't specify between the D. corais couperi (Eastern) and D. corais erebennus (Texas).
So I think that's trouble for me..

You Texans out there may have just dodged a bullet as far as having me for a neighbor, lol.
 
I wasn't going to care too much, but she was looking at Austin.
We can pretty much go anywhere depending on her job situation, so we're lucky I guess. The only thing I have to watch for is snake laws.
 
Yep, I've heard that from lot's of friends. Only place I've ever been in Texas was the Riverwalk in San Antonio. I was waiting for a bus one time which was going to be awhile- so I just took a walk. It was pretty cool!
 
Well, for sure we won't be seeing you in Florida. Too bad! You'd probably have a heart attack seeing the property prices here compared to California, anyway.
 
Georgia is out too. So are AL, SC, Mississipi (MI?), VA, NY, NJ, and IL. I think we'll be looking in Wade's neck of the woods. Look out Wade!
 
Thanks for the offer Fred! I don't think I could go anywhere without that guy though... But if it comes to that, I'll drop by on my way through, lol.
 
Don't quote me but, I am pretty sure if you have a receipt and can prove species, you should be ok in Tejas. I think...
 
I'm sure that the state of Texas doesn't mean to worry about Easterns, but from what I understand the way the law is written they do on a technicality. Problem is that when they wrote it they were considered the same animal..

I sure hope you're right though. If the lady in your permitting dept. would call me back I'd know for sure. The first lady I spoke to though did say I'd need a permit and she was referring me there next... I even clarified, "you know I'm not talking about a Texas Indigo right? This a snake not native to your state.." and she maintained that I would need one.
 
mike17l said:
Don't quote me but, I am pretty sure if you have a receipt and can prove species, you should be ok in Tejas. I think...
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Mike you are correct!!

I just got off the phone with the permitting dept, she confirmed that although the regulations don't differentiate between Drymarchon corais couperi and Drymarchon corais erebennus, (which she said will probably be changed eventually, but we have to deal with it in the meantime) I could have either if I can prove I bought them legally, and if I can qualify for the permit.
I kind of knew that already, but I assumed the permit was something like the Florida permit where there really wasn't going to be much chance. She said as long as I don't plan on breeding that species, I should be OK for the permit..
 
Nanci said:
Um Tom? Isn't this your girlfriend's snake??? Her birthday present?
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Haha! Yes it still is. I had mentioned on the other thread about him though, that she rarely holds him anymore. I was joking about that, that I probably need to change that status. But in reality he is hers, I'm just the snake janitor. :noevil:

I think her interest in him is falling off somewhat since she got the pup.. Actually it's funny, I think she wanted the indigo because of her conversation with Robert Bruce (the Indigo breeder) at the Anaheim show. He was telling her what personable snakes they are, how they are so intelligent etc- At the time I was saying we couldn't really get a dog in the condo, because there is no yard. I figure she thought that was the next best thing. Later since I caved on the dog, I think her pup needs were filled.

Permitwise, I will get the permit, but we aren't splitting up anytime soon, lol. She's definitely the girl for me, so he's a family snake.
Ironically, I wouldn't have an Indigo OR a dog if she hadn't asked, and I have to say I'm glad on both counts.
 
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