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Two corns in the same cage

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666killademon

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Is there anything wrong with having two same gender snakes together as long as i feed them separate? They sholudn't fight should they because I want to get a ghost corn in addition to the one I have already. Also can a smaller snake go in with a bigger one?
 
There are lots of threads in regards to this subject. If you use the search function for cohabbing you will find plenty of peoples opinions on this subject.

In general, it is highly recommended that you do not put two snakes in the same tank, regardless of gender or size. The biggest factor against cohabbing is stress. Snakes are solitary creatures in the wild so putting two in one tank can stress them out causing them to not eat. Cornsnakes are not really cannibalistic but there is the possibility of it especially if one snake is larger than the other.
There is also the possibility that if your snakes are incorrectly sexed you could end up with breeding snakes and if the female is too young she could become eggbound and die.

Some people do successfully cohab cornsnakes with no problems, but I see more threads about the problems that do occur than any success stories.
 
Do a search on cohabitation, its been discussed at length many times.

Simply put - Yes, you can, but your putting them in unnecessary risk (health/stress/feeding/breeding) and your not saving any room or money because you will need a spare complete extra setup on hand incase they need to be seperated. In nature they spend most of their time alone, and any other snake (other then for breeding purposes) near them means competition. I strongly recommend that unless you have many years experiance with the species to house them seperately. Besides, any new snake you get needs to be quarentened for a good month or more.
 
If you have nothing to do before your 21st birthday, you can search and read all the threads on this subject, or you can accept my advice that this it is not a good idea to cohabitate corn snakes, regardless of gender. The primary reasons are competition for favorite warm/secure spots, stress of having another snake around, and the possibility of cannibalism.

Now go put on your asbestos underwear and await the flaming that this subject inevitably generates.
 
Here is a pic from a thread in the Genral Chit Chat forum...to show why you shouldn't house two snakes together...

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There use to be two snakes in the deli cup in the pic but now theres only one...and the one died after regurgitating its sibling....cohabbing is not a smart thing you risk what happened in the photo above happening with your snakes...and plus all the stress and stuss put on the snake isn't healthy so why'd you wanna do it in the first place...just go out and buy another tank and all the stuff to go with it it'll be better for you and the snakes in the long run.
 
to be honest...............this little game that is becoming popular lately is starting to get old. i am almost certain that you know the answer to this question, you were involved in the "crap" thread and have started two more threads within the last 2 days asking how long it takes for a snake to "deficate" and "poop". then you came up with this to start another thread:
666killademon said:
I have asked this question plenty of times already so to those who have already answered it you can keep any sarcastic comments to yourself.
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why ask a question again, if you have already asked it "plenty of times" and have received answers that you didn't like. the moderator voting that is going on right now is the continuing results of this kind of garbage that keeps being thrown out by incompetent and manner-less imbeciles. either contribute politely and with courtesy, or just don't even bother loggin in.

galen
 
Some backreading might do you good here. This topic has pretty much been beaten to death.
 
Mine live together and havnt had any problems, but mine are of a similar size, i dont know if different sizes would be a good idea though.
 
Excuse me gwb8568 the reason I kept on asking those questions is I was only getting a response for one or two people and I needed more. Also I did not know the answer to this question and why would u presume I did. I was told that two corns can live together and that they wouldn't eat each other so you can calm yourself down and watch what you say.
 
2 years ago one of my racks nearly caught fire. It melted a tub and almost killed one of my snakes. Having no other choice, I co-habbed a pair together I thought were males. It was just temporary, until I could get more cages. One of the "males" laid 13 eggs, then became eggbound. Despite 3 vet visits she could not be saved.

Only 3 eggs hatched, and I kept all the babies.
But I wish I still had her.
 
Compare your answers; how many people are telling you its safe to house them together and how many people are telling you its better to avoid it.

No one has yet to mention the extreme breeding risk; you should listen to this too Lampy. Males develop faster then females, and males will often do all the can to breed with the female (which equals stress for both). If the female isnt developed enough you could very well end up with a nice vet bill or a dead snake. Never trust 100% what someone else says is their gender, you will find a ton of examples of mis-sexed snakes; to males together can fight too.

Nothing may not happen if you put them together, but its the fact that things still can and have happened, that can be easily prevented by keeping them seperate. Is it worth all that risk and stress to the animals just to save a little room?
 
You will find a lot of people won't answer this question anymore because it is a very emotional subject and has been discussed way too much already, and often results in a flame war.

The responses received already have covered it pretty well. But there are hours and hours of further reading if you would like to see how many people are for or against it and what their reasoning is. Just look up cohabbing or similar topics and you will see what I mean.

I have also written up a fairly long FAQ on the subject, giving my views. I believe it is still posted on this site, although I haven't looked at it for awhile.

Hopefully, those items will provide enough opinion for you to decide, avoiding this thread becoming what many others have become on the subject.

Good luck!
 
kathylove said:
I have also written up a fairly long FAQ on the subject, giving my views. I believe it is still posted on this site, although I haven't looked at it for awhile.
Good luck!
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here you go kathy.......... LINK

galen
 
Thanks!

Still there, I see! I don't usually look through the FAQs anymore, but I wish everyone who hasn't already seen them would take a look. Lots of work went into writing, tweaking, and setting them up for posting. And not just by me, either. They would be really helpful for anyone looking for info on the subjects they cover.

Between the FAQs, the previous answers in this thread, and the zillions of pages already posted in other threads, I just can't think of anymore to possibly add to the subject.
 
Well to be fair mine are both around 2 years old, were living with others when they were bought and have had no problems, ive been watching for stress etc, and for the months they have been together there fine, if it were to go wrong id just have to live with it.
 
lampy said:
Well to be fair mine are both around 2 years old, were living with others when they were bought and have had no problems,
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No problems yet.

How can you look at pictures of snakes eating each other, and still think it's ok, yours are special, yours are the exception, and potentially risk their lives? Why are you ok with that? I'm just curious.

Nanci
 
666killademon said:
Excuse me gwb8568 the reason I kept on asking those questions is I was only getting a response for one or two people and I needed more. Also I did not know the answer to this question and why would u presume I did. I was told that two corns can live together and that they wouldn't eat each other so you can calm yourself down and watch what you say.
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If you would take the time to read the FAQ or utilize the search function you would not have the need to keep asking the same questions. As Kathy noted, a lot of these basic questions have been answered over and over and over again so not many people take the time to read or respond to them anymore. That is why only 1 or 2 people might respond.
There is already plenty of information available throughout the site with the answers you are looking for if you are just willing to put the time into doing some research on your own. It also goes a long way in how people on here will respond to you if you show that you are willing to at least attempt to search out the information for yourself before posting questions that have been answered repeatedly.
 
After getting alot of emails on this subject, I decided to write up my opinion on this subject. I suggest you read through it!

Cohabitation, My Opinion

There are lots of mixed feelings, and mixed emotions on this touchy subject. I would first like to start off by saying this is purely my opinion on my experiences, and should not be attempted or tried if you are a beginner to the hobby of reptiles.

I get asked this question numerous times daily. The question is, “Can I house two snakes together in the same tank?” My simple answer is No, but I would like to express myself. There are many downsides to housing them together, and though they may not happen, there is always a possibility that it could happen. I like using the quote that we should keep our reptiles out of un-necessary harm.

First concern would be the health of the reptiles. If one has parasites once it has been introduced to the other, then you have two sick snakes. There are lots of diseases out there that are spread by the contact of the feces. Being so, both snakes poop in the same tank, puts both snakes at risks.

Next concern would be the stress. Most of the time, when I hear of someone posting pictures of co-habitation, they show pictures of the snakes “cuddling”. To be honest, they are not cuddling; they are showing dominance over each other by taking the one hide spot that they both want. This is a very stressful thing to put any reptile through, let alone two snakes. Stress can even lead to illnesses, and potential death of the snakes.

Another concern would be feeding. Even if you feed separately, snakes are opportunistic feeders. They will feed on whatever they can have a chance to feed on, because they do not know when the next time they will feed is. After feeding, snakes are in a “eat whatever moves” mood. They go after any kind of movement and hope to make a meal out of it if it looks like it has potential to be one.

Another concern is breeding. Corn snakes become sexually mature at around two years of age. Usually in most cases, by two years of age, neither snake has the right amount of body mass to be successful at breeding. The chance of them breeding is very high, and the chance of the female getting pregnant and becoming egg-bound is even higher.

There are plenty other reasons why you would not want to co-habitat snakes. These are the basics, explained. Personally, it’s your own choice. It comes down to whether or not you want to risk the health and possibly the life of your snakes just to see them “Together”.
 
Nanci said:
No problems yet.

How can you look at pictures of snakes eating each other, and still think it's ok, yours are special, yours are the exception, and potentially risk their lives? Why are you ok with that? I'm just curious.

Nanci
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I dont, and the word is potentially, possibly, ive kept cats ,we let them out despite the risks and seeing occaisional dead ones due to traffic, i think any risk here is relativly marginal.
 
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