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ultramel anery stripes

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dirtydozen

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Had these lovelys pop up last week, are they what i think they are?
Had it confirmed by a few people now and they defo have ruby red pupil





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dad was a ghost stripe and mum was a very light hypo stripe/mot, so im presuming dad was het amel and mum was either an ultra or het ultra/anery
 
So, in other words, it's more or less an Amel x Ultra breeding? Pretty sure that means you have an Ultramel! Congratulations. =)
 
Sorry for the double post. I just realized you have another wrench in there with the Hypo gene. Are you sure it isn't just a Ghost?
 
if thats the case how is it poss to distinguish between the two, can you only do it by breeding them? What would be best to put one of these too? Or should i put the female to a snow stripe next season
 
Exactly my thought, Shiari. Plus, Ghosts are pretty variable... There's one at a reptile shop in my area that is completely an extremely, almost whitish, light gray. Almost like he descended from Silverqueen lines. In other words, just like there are ghosts that are so dark they look JUST Anery, there can be ghosts so light they almost look like they should be snows. Anyway, you're more likely to get nice ghosts than hit a "jackpot" of hets that would land you with Ultramel Aneries.

You'll have to test it out to be sure. Breed the offspring to an Ultra/Ultramel animal that you KNOW does NOT carry Anery or Hypo. You won't get any spiffy Ultramel Aneries (should this prove to be Ultramel) by removing the Anery, but it'll create less confusion. There's other ways of going about the test breeding, but that's the first one that comes to my mind. =)
 
dirtydozen said:
dad was a ghost stripe and mum was a very light hypo stripe/mot, so im presuming dad was het amel and mum was either an ultra or het ultra/anery
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Ghosts can have red pupils (As others have said). That looks more like a striped-motley than a real stripe. I larger image would help, but I'm still certain of that previous statement.

Breed the hypo or the ghost (the hypo FIRST would be my suggestion) to an albino next year to test the genetics. Otherwise, I strongly think you are JUST dealing with a decent looking ghost - not an ultramelaner. Sorry.

KJ
 
Can anyone show me a pic of a ghost like this? In the litter there were 3 more of these, i think 3-4 that actually look like ghost stripe/mots, 5 very light hypo stripe/mots and some hypo mots and ghost mots
 
If you could post photos of the rest of the clutch for comparison, that might help.

Here are some light ghosts/ghost motleys that I hatched out a few years ago. But then, I discovered dilute running through my collection and can't be 100% sure these aren't dilute ghosts/ghost motleys.

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This last one is just show you the ruby pupil seen in some ghosts:

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glad you finally got the pictures up dude lol.
these are awesome in the flesh, very different to anything i have ever seen.
the way ultra is now floating about it really wouldnt be a shock to me if they were.
i had the ultramel bloodreds by fluke this year, and i'll now be testing the female to se if she might be het for caramel too.. if so i'll have goldust bloods next season really quite by accident.
 
cheers for that nige, still not managed to get a good eye pic but dont see the point with the responses that ghosts can have red eyes too.
Im still not convinced they are ghosts, what do you really think nige? Yes i can appreciate that ghost can vary greatly but i have never seen one like this, its so hard to show in a pic but what do you think nige as you have seen them in the flesh?


KJUN, you say put the adults to an albino to try prove it out, would i be best off using say a snow as if i just used an amel then if ultra is in there is it not hard to distinguise the ultras in the litter if there is any, just thought if i used snow then i would again get ultra aners. Im pretty new to this ultra gene and not really dealt with it so please excuse me if what i have asked is a bit of a stupid Q

cheers jonny
 
thanks for the pics susan, will get my missus to have a gander at them and see what she thinks, im colour blind you see so makes things difficult lol

Will get some pics of the rest of clutch next couple of days when i feed them, one good thing they are all brill feeders, not one has missed a feed
 
Well

Just cause people see red pupils its automatically a ultramel?
Although most ultramels that hatch do have ruby pupils, some dont that being said dont be so sure.
Breed your animals to a amel when they get big enough to be sure, as far as that ultramel bloodred, it dont look like any of the ones I hatched. I have seen hypo bloodreds that LOOK more like ultramels then the one you hatched.
So why do you think its a ultramel ?
Here is something to think about, cornmorphs vary,wow they all dont look alike. So although its exciting to see one that looks different, more then likely it isnt any different genetically. :rolleyes:
 
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