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Unexplained Experiences... and LOLghosts
- Thread starter SnakesRule1234
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Nova_C
New member
You're welcome to believe whatever you like, but your statement is fallacious. For one thing, you cannot prove a negative. For the other, the burden of proof is on those making the positive claim.
Just a note: Whenever you make any kind of claim with no corroborating evidence don't be upset when it gets challenged.
SnakesRule1234
New member
How am I upset? I'm not and I could care less if it's being challenged. I NEVER stated anything I said is fact... It's what I believe.
Nova_C
New member
The phrase "I KNOW it's true..." is a claim to fact, so yeah, you did say it was fact.
The above sounded defensive, so it seemed to me that you were upset. There are many degrees of upset and you're objecting to be questioned at all. Like I said, if you make a claim with no evidence to corroborate, be prepared to be questioned.
Emily1188
Smells Like a Rat
"The earth is flat."
If I wrote that, and left it as is, you bet I'd get alot of responses! If I qualified it with, "I believe the earth is flat," it would be another thing entirely.
You're also using the words "believe" and "know" interchangeably, which is incorrect. You can believe something, but to KNOW it implies that it is "knowledge" - which implies that it is factual.
:shrugs:
If I wrote that, and left it as is, you bet I'd get alot of responses! If I qualified it with, "I believe the earth is flat," it would be another thing entirely.
You're also using the words "believe" and "know" interchangeably, which is incorrect. You can believe something, but to KNOW it implies that it is "knowledge" - which implies that it is factual.
:shrugs:
SnakesRule1234
New member
I said I know it's true and I will believe it until I'm proven wrong. Meaning I BELIEVE that and to me it's somewhat a fact. Is that so hard to understand or are you a few fries short of a happy meal?
Kokopelli
Resident Boa Fanatic
This isn't by any means a "ghost story", just something that happened, and I can't really point out a very solid explanation, at least, not a "logical" one.
I was still in the army at the time, just prior to the war in Lebanon. I was back at my place during one of the weekends in which I was off, and I found a dog-tag that soldiers wear. We have our names and designated numbers on them.
Anyways I found such a tag and on it was a name "Eli Ezer", on my desk. I did not put it there, I didn't get it from my bag. It was just there, I know no one by that name- I have a good friend named Eli whom I haven't seen for a good few months but it wasn't his number or last name. Another weird thing about it was that it had another letter, sort of dented/carved into it, so it looked like "Eli Ezara". It was obvious that it was added, because it looked so different than the original scribe- in Hebrew, the word Eli is "my God", and Ezra means "Help".
I wasn't sure what drove me to it, but I prayed.
The next day my friend Eli's(whose tag was with him, I asked) D9(D9 is a big armored tractor, it's purpose is to clear possible mines or explosive charges) was directly hit by a anti-armor shoulder-missile.
The missile hit well and hard, but the only injury he sustained was to his arm, and the injury was not permanent. People later told him that they really had no idea how he even managed to survive.
I never told him of this, I don't think I will. I imagine he will look at me strange and say I was insane.
It's just one of those things that make you wonder
I was still in the army at the time, just prior to the war in Lebanon. I was back at my place during one of the weekends in which I was off, and I found a dog-tag that soldiers wear. We have our names and designated numbers on them.
Anyways I found such a tag and on it was a name "Eli Ezer", on my desk. I did not put it there, I didn't get it from my bag. It was just there, I know no one by that name- I have a good friend named Eli whom I haven't seen for a good few months but it wasn't his number or last name. Another weird thing about it was that it had another letter, sort of dented/carved into it, so it looked like "Eli Ezara". It was obvious that it was added, because it looked so different than the original scribe- in Hebrew, the word Eli is "my God", and Ezra means "Help".
I wasn't sure what drove me to it, but I prayed.
The next day my friend Eli's(whose tag was with him, I asked) D9(D9 is a big armored tractor, it's purpose is to clear possible mines or explosive charges) was directly hit by a anti-armor shoulder-missile.
The missile hit well and hard, but the only injury he sustained was to his arm, and the injury was not permanent. People later told him that they really had no idea how he even managed to survive.
I never told him of this, I don't think I will. I imagine he will look at me strange and say I was insane.
It's just one of those things that make you wonder
Nova_C
New member
Truth isn't subjective. Belief is. Regardless of your .... immature comment as to my intelligence or lack thereof, you're claiming your belief as truth. It's a semantical debate to be sure, but in the end you're using language incorrectly and while I understand what you're saying not only do I get to challenge you on your incorrect usage of the word 'truth', but I get to challenge your belief as well, if I so choose.
Roy Munson
New member
No need to get inflammatory, Paulina. You weren't completely clear before, so you can't get mad if people misunderstand you. When you say that you know AND you believe, you can't blame some of us for being confused. I'm definitely a few fries short of a Happy Meal, but I'm still pretty good at reading comprehension.
It IS true that you can't prove a negative and that the burden of proof lies with the person making a claim. If I say that I know and believe that there is a 15 foot blizzard corn snake living in Yosemite park, I wouldn't expect you to search and dig up every square inch of the park in order for you to be reasonably skeptical. Exceptional claims require exceptional evidence. :shrugs:
midnightgallop
I can't type...
I left a recorder on in my room once and got a man saying "I pray for them....I pray for them, I pray for them...". My house is quite old. As for ghosts and stuff, I've always thought I've heard my named called when I was little from empty rooms (in the same old house) and Ive seen a lot of stuff, but I could just be imagining it. The EVP with no one there though saying pray for me, I can't disprove that.
ZoologyMajor
100% Addicted
1. Animals are more sensitive to a lot of stimuli we as humans can't pick up on. That is proven. Dogs are currently being used to detect cancer, gemstones, and let someone know that they are about to have a seizure before they do. How the dogs go about this is normally by smell but it still doesn't change the fact that they can do something we can't or can't without the aid of a machine.
2. I don't consider ghosts, etc. supernatural. Just because we can't explain these things with our current scientific knowledge doesn't mean we will never be able to.
3. Pigs can fly!!!! .............In Airplanes!!!! lol
4. I really liked the story about the weird cat creature and the child on the monitor.
5. UFO/Aliens - We need to stop being so conceded as to think we are the only intelligent (uses that term loosely) life out there. To quote Contact "I'll tell you one thing about the universe, though. The universe is a pretty big place. It's bigger than anything anyone has ever dreamed of before. So if it's just us... seems like an awful waste of space. Right?"
6. I am a scientifically minded person of reasonable intelligence but I have seen some things out there in my time to make me believe there is something. I will only relate a few minor instances because the other stories I would tell involve sensitive info about other people.
When I was in middle school I was over a friends house. We were the only ones there. We started playing with a Ouija board just goofing off and not expecting anything to happen. We had candles lit and incense burning. I have no idea what kind of silly teen question we were asking it at the time but all of a sudden the candles and incense went out. They were not blown out. There was no wind or drafts. Then the blind in her room shot up like someone was pulling the cord really hard and really fast. The blind was line one found in most apartments with the rod that you twist to allow light in and the string you pull to lift the entire blind up. Needless to say we stopped there.
Deja vu - This is something I experience on a regular basis. I never really gave it much thought until..... One day I was having a conversation with someone. The subject matter is not one of those things where you could guess what the other person was going to say nor was I particularly close to this person. Well I started experiencing something I can only call deja vu because I lack a better term for it. I was hearing EXACTLY what this person was going to say literally seconds before the person said it. The entire convo was this way. You have no idea how much this freaked me out.
2. I don't consider ghosts, etc. supernatural. Just because we can't explain these things with our current scientific knowledge doesn't mean we will never be able to.
3. Pigs can fly!!!! .............In Airplanes!!!! lol
4. I really liked the story about the weird cat creature and the child on the monitor.
5. UFO/Aliens - We need to stop being so conceded as to think we are the only intelligent (uses that term loosely) life out there. To quote Contact "I'll tell you one thing about the universe, though. The universe is a pretty big place. It's bigger than anything anyone has ever dreamed of before. So if it's just us... seems like an awful waste of space. Right?"
6. I am a scientifically minded person of reasonable intelligence but I have seen some things out there in my time to make me believe there is something. I will only relate a few minor instances because the other stories I would tell involve sensitive info about other people.
When I was in middle school I was over a friends house. We were the only ones there. We started playing with a Ouija board just goofing off and not expecting anything to happen. We had candles lit and incense burning. I have no idea what kind of silly teen question we were asking it at the time but all of a sudden the candles and incense went out. They were not blown out. There was no wind or drafts. Then the blind in her room shot up like someone was pulling the cord really hard and really fast. The blind was line one found in most apartments with the rod that you twist to allow light in and the string you pull to lift the entire blind up. Needless to say we stopped there.
Deja vu - This is something I experience on a regular basis. I never really gave it much thought until..... One day I was having a conversation with someone. The subject matter is not one of those things where you could guess what the other person was going to say nor was I particularly close to this person. Well I started experiencing something I can only call deja vu because I lack a better term for it. I was hearing EXACTLY what this person was going to say literally seconds before the person said it. The entire convo was this way. You have no idea how much this freaked me out.
Roy Munson
New member
I think that it's extremely likely that there is intelligent extraterrestrial life, I just haven't been convinced that they've already been here or that they continue to visit via UFOs. :shrugs:
Cflaguy
Old School Snakeman
Please. please, please...
get out of my head! I agree. The time it would take for interstellar travel is to great.
get out of my head! I agree. The time it would take for interstellar travel is to great.
ZoologyMajor
100% Addicted
Or at least any means presently known to us. It wasn't that long ago we put the first man on the moon after all.
Food for thought: Did you know there are cave paintings that (I believe it was Native American drawings) of objects coming down from the sky that look like flying saucers. If that is what the drawings were truly painted to represent it would be interesting.
ShroomieGirl
Enter User Title Here
Ive had a few weird things happen to me... a few ghosts, premonitions of 9/11, and god knows how many deja vus...
When I was little (maybe 7 or 8), I had a couple in my old house in maryland. It was an older house (although not hundreds of years old). Anyway... one night I walked out of my room half asleep to go to my grandmas room. Im usually not allowed to do that, and was hoping noone was looking. Before I ran across the hallway I looked down it towards the living room and saw a tall woman in a nightgown staring out the window. When I saw her I thought it was my mom and yelled to it "mom?" It just looked over at me, and started to come towards me. I saw that it wasnt my mom, but a ghost that was definitely not my mom. I immediately had a feeling of terror and ran into my grandmas room and shut the door shaking. Never saw her again (but also was never up at that hour again).
Second was on my way to bed when I was about the same age and in the same house. There was a man in an old fasion nightgown leaning into a closet that wasnt open as if he were looking for something. When I came around the corner he leaned back out of the closet door and looked right at me. I couldnt notice he had a cat that was exactly like my moms that had died 5 years before. I stopped immediately, but he didnt seem to care I was there and went on with what he was doing. I ran back to my parents room, and by the time I went back, he was gone.
Many years later when i was a sophmore in high school I had another creepy thing happen. Right before I went to sleep I laid there and just thought. I always seem to have to sit and think for atleast an hour before I can actually fall asleep. Anyway... My mind wandered, and finally settled on an idea of a plane flying into a building. I kept visualizing a big airliner crashing into a smaller white building, which kinda looked like the pentagon actually, and then larger buildings. All I said was "wow, that would suck... I hope that never happens to me"
The next morning I turn on the tv and watch a plane crash into the world trade center buildings. I couldnt believe my eyes. And that feeling of WTF? in my chest when I realized this was exactly what I saw the night before in my thoughts before I went to bed... overwhelming
Ive had other small things like having "feelings" about things... like having a bad anxious feeling a few hours before I or friends get pulled over, guessing the superbowl winners EVERY year, even though I dont follow much football, etc.
When I was little (maybe 7 or 8), I had a couple in my old house in maryland. It was an older house (although not hundreds of years old). Anyway... one night I walked out of my room half asleep to go to my grandmas room. Im usually not allowed to do that, and was hoping noone was looking. Before I ran across the hallway I looked down it towards the living room and saw a tall woman in a nightgown staring out the window. When I saw her I thought it was my mom and yelled to it "mom?" It just looked over at me, and started to come towards me. I saw that it wasnt my mom, but a ghost that was definitely not my mom. I immediately had a feeling of terror and ran into my grandmas room and shut the door shaking. Never saw her again (but also was never up at that hour again).
Second was on my way to bed when I was about the same age and in the same house. There was a man in an old fasion nightgown leaning into a closet that wasnt open as if he were looking for something. When I came around the corner he leaned back out of the closet door and looked right at me. I couldnt notice he had a cat that was exactly like my moms that had died 5 years before. I stopped immediately, but he didnt seem to care I was there and went on with what he was doing. I ran back to my parents room, and by the time I went back, he was gone.
Many years later when i was a sophmore in high school I had another creepy thing happen. Right before I went to sleep I laid there and just thought. I always seem to have to sit and think for atleast an hour before I can actually fall asleep. Anyway... My mind wandered, and finally settled on an idea of a plane flying into a building. I kept visualizing a big airliner crashing into a smaller white building, which kinda looked like the pentagon actually, and then larger buildings. All I said was "wow, that would suck... I hope that never happens to me"
The next morning I turn on the tv and watch a plane crash into the world trade center buildings. I couldnt believe my eyes. And that feeling of WTF? in my chest when I realized this was exactly what I saw the night before in my thoughts before I went to bed... overwhelming
Ive had other small things like having "feelings" about things... like having a bad anxious feeling a few hours before I or friends get pulled over, guessing the superbowl winners EVERY year, even though I dont follow much football, etc.
Plissken
Crazy Snail Lady
I find it rather interesting that many of us claim our experiences happened when we were young. If there IS something there, perhaps children are more intune to it (or perhaps they just have more vivid imaginations) :grin01:
Funny how those premonitions occur occasionally. I had one once that someone I loved had been in an accident - a moment later the phone was ringing. Weird. I don't think they're paranormal or spooky, but I'd like to know what causes them.
Funny how those premonitions occur occasionally. I had one once that someone I loved had been in an accident - a moment later the phone was ringing. Weird. I don't think they're paranormal or spooky, but I'd like to know what causes them.
ZoologyMajor
100% Addicted
I think the reason children tend to see things more often is because they haven't been told what they can and can't believe. They aren't tainted by what is accepted in society and what isn't. What if some people (adults included) can access parts of the brain that we don't normally use. We use very little of our brains as it is (some don't use the normal part at all LOL). Who knows what we will be capable of in the future if we don't blow ourselves up first.
Roy Munson
New member
This is a myth. Snopes isn't exactly the final word on all things scientific, but it can point you in the right direction if you need further references:
http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percent.asp
starsevol
Cohabbing is cruelty...
The few minor things that happened to me happened when I was in my 20s or older.
The things that happened to my mom happened in her 60s and are still happening now, she is 72.
The thing that happened to my sister and sister-in-law happened when they were in their 30s.
The things that happened to my husband's family happened when my husband and his brother were kids, but my in-laws experianced it also, and they were adults.
The things that happened to my mom happened in her 60s and are still happening now, she is 72.
The thing that happened to my sister and sister-in-law happened when they were in their 30s.
The things that happened to my husband's family happened when my husband and his brother were kids, but my in-laws experianced it also, and they were adults.
i dunno if i believe in ghosts but this happend to me at the age of 15 at my mums house i was downstairs watching steve irwin then i heard a bang first time i ignored it about 10 minutes later it happend again so i went up stairs on the floor was a note saying Help but that day i had my cousens round so i thought it was them playing a game. later that evening about 1.30am i woke up and in the corner of my room i saw a little girl with black hair hanged in the corner after about 30 second she was gone for a week i could'nt sleep HOW WEIRD