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Viv size question

gworfish

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Hi everyone,

We've just gone through some house moving of some of our corns in an attempt to get everyone into a better housing situation. We picked up two juvenile girls and their shared accomodation: a 29 gallon aquarium. We wanted to move them into separate accomodations, which lead to partitioning a 40 gallon tank. That plan seems to have worked out fine.

However we wanted to use the 29 gallon to up-size the dwelling of our adult. What he came is was quite awful; cramped for his size, no lip on the top to secure a lid with anything but heavy books, and one side was even cracked! From posts I've seen here we thought a 29 gallon would be well sized for him. But we've moved him in, and it just seems far too cramped:

Johnny's_digs.jpg
(It is hard to see in the picture, but there isn't very much room for him to move around the perimeter.)

We've just put in a smaller water dish (deeper but narrower) to give him some more crawling room. We also have thought about smaller hides, but based on how much of their inside room he takes up I think they are sized right. Our current idea (which we can't test out because all the stores would be closed right now) is to try a combo hide/water bowl like what I saw here.

He hasn't come out of his rock since we moved him, which I've chalked up to moving stress (I'm the same way whenever I move). But the more we look at his new home the more we think he doesn't really have a lot of space to actually move around in when he does decide to come out. The tank is 30"x12" on the floor, and he's about 54" long....

Am I crazy for worrying too much about this? Is a 29 gallon large enough for an adult corn? Is our problem too much furniture? Should we move one of his hides up onto a raised platform to give him more "floor space"? Should we move him into a spare huge tank (36"x18"x20", 60 gallon I think).

Apologies for the long post, but I'm a wordy guy. Any thoughts/feedback would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Ian.
 
Well, the smallest tanks my adult guys are in are 36" x 18" x 18", the biggest is 48" x 18" x 18". I usually go by, length plus width should be longer than or equal to, the length of the Corn snake, but that's just my preference :)

If you feel he is cramped then move him up if you have the tank to do so :)
 
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I bought everything from my local store, including the viv which is 48 x18 x18.
My corn is now around 4 foot long and has plenty of room.
You will find most stores have varying size vivs for snakes, look up the dimensions for an adult corn and see if yours measures the same or more.
 
If you feel he is cramped then move him up if you have the tank to do so :)

Yes, quite sound advice. It will require some significant furniture moves, and the lid is less than optimal on the big one, so I was just trying to get around it. :)
 
You will find most stores have varying size vivs for snakes...

Yes, sadly they also have the, admittedly reasonable, expectation of being paid, which is a challenge for me at the moment. :)

Our eventual plan is to get all DIY on the situation, and try to build something along the lines of this. But one step at a time and all that.

Ian.
 
Legos! That is awesome!

Yeah! Lego for the win! I actually read about it somewhere on these forums, and realised that my step son had a huge collection that he'd be happy to donate to the cause, especially since turning 11. :)

I'm hoping to get a bit more creative soon and go for some seriously multi-storey structures, so long as I can make them both roomy and sturdy enough to support the weight.

Ian.
 
Love the lego hides...so neat!! Personally hate those vine things ...bought three myself and ended up throwing them out...found that they "shed" the green spongy looking stuff off of them and it was always falling in to the water dishes and I was worried that if the snakes drank the 'bits' it might cause an impaction esp. with the small babies.
 
...Personally hate those vine things...found that they "shed" the green spongy looking stuff off of them...

Thanks for the scoop. That one came with the snake, and I haven't been a big fan yet. I hated trying to get it to take some kind of useful shape in the cage, and I've never actually seen the snake use it yet. But if it is going to drop schmutz into the dish I'm out.

I'd like to put some branches in, but I need to do some more reading about how to make the wood safe (mostly parasite-free I guess), as well as a plentiful branch supply in tree-sparse southern Alberta. :)

Ian.
 
Well I am not sure of the name of the thread but one guy did just that he got some nice branches he liked, striped all the bark, then placed the readied branch in 9 parts water 1 part bleach, then heated in the oven to dry....I think around 250 degrees...at least I know that is how hot I use when I buy Malaysian drift wood pieces for my guys(they say it is safe but I am OCD about the safety of my babies).
 
29 gallon long tanks are plenty of room for an adult corn. What you have their is a 29 gallon high tank. Their is quit a bit of difference between the lengths of these cages. Im sure he'll be fine in a 29G high for awhile, i know people that shuved adults in tubs smaller than 15qts. Which is way to cramped for a full grown adult.
 
Personally hate those vine things ...bought three myself and ended up throwing them out...found that they "shed" the green spongy looking stuff off of them and it was always falling in to the water dishes and I was worried that if the snakes drank the 'bits' it might cause an impaction esp. with the small babies.


Ooooo, thank you for sharing! I want to buy this vine thing (I dont know the name too), but now I won't :)
 
...they say it is safe but I am OCD about the safety of my babies).

Yeah, I sure get that. I'd like to keep my snakes as safe and happy as possible, within the context of them being captive animals. But that is a philosophical topic beyond the scope of this thread. :)

thanks for the recipe. I was thinking "strip bark, wash with bleachy water", but I'm never too sure about how much bleach to use, and wouldn't have thought to put it in the oven.

Thanks,
Ian.
 
...i know people that shuved adults in tubs smaller than 15qts...

Yeah, I'm sure he could survive in tupperwear for a while - I recently lived in a 400 sq. foot bachelor apartment which would be about as cramped. :) But I'd like a bit better for my slithering chums. I've rebuilt his lego hide onto stilts, so he has a lot more slithering/burrowing space now - I'll post pics when I can. But until we can move some more furniture around and maybe get some shelving going on I think he's in a much nicer place than his last cage.
 
Ian my ten yr old says "awesome lego hides....and he is going to make some for his baby snake when she out grows the current hides she has now!!!"
 
Yes, sadly they also have the, admittedly reasonable, expectation of being paid, which is a challenge for me at the moment. :)

Our eventual plan is to get all DIY on the situation, and try to build something along the lines of this. But one step at a time and all that.

Ian.

Hey you linked my DIY, thanks LOL

If you can (eventually) get your hands on a pantry type thing, it's relatively easy. If a chick can do it............ :)
 
Hey you linked my DIY, thanks LOL

Heck yeah, because it was awesome! Trying to match cages with shelves when they were designed for books or such is dreadful. We've been moving furniture around since we expanded out snake family just to find good spots for everyone that doesn't make our house look like we're still moving in. :)


If you can (eventually) get your hands on a pantry type thing, it's relatively easy. If a chick can do it............ :)

Ha! I'm far too much the radical feminist to fall for that! I'm a disaster with power tools, but nothing improves skills like practice. Just hope I can keep all my fingers attached....

Ian.
 
Ian my ten yr old says "awesome lego hides....and he is going to make some for his baby snake when she out grows the current hides she has now!!!"

Yay! I'm glad I could help with the inspiration/idea. Our 11yo was quite glad to donate as much of his lego as I needed, and happy to help with the construction.

I'm planning some major expansions on the current hides, but it is all pending some stability tests. But I got the big hide from the start of this thread put up on stilts now so he has more substrate to slither and burrow. But still no sign of whether he'll like it or not - he stayed in his old hid since moving in to the new tank, and then it was feeding time so he stayed at the warm end. If he doesn't like it I'm just going to feel like a dork. :)

When I get more of the lego work done I'll start a new lego-centric thread full of pics.

Ian.
 
Heck yeah, because it was awesome! Trying to match cages with shelves when they were designed for books or such is dreadful. We've been moving furniture around since we expanded out snake family just to find good spots for everyone that doesn't make our house look like we're still moving in. :)




Ha! I'm far too much the radical feminist to fall for that! I'm a disaster with power tools, but nothing improves skills like practice. Just hope I can keep all my fingers attached....

Ian.

Thats why I bought a white pantry, its acrylic so its water proof and its white, so when I needed to add wood to it, I just painted the wood white.

I am a girl, and I never picked up a drill until I made that pantry. I had no building experience whats so ever. All your doing is buying a bookcase or pantry, and attaching front and backs to it. Your backs are peg board, and your fronts are plexi glass.
 
I usually bake my wooden things at 250 for 30 min. I don't bleach. I figure there isn't much that will survive that long in the oven.
 
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