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What do you think she is!

Jereme

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The parents are Motley het sunkissed, cinder, amel pos het carmel X Normal het sunkissed, cinder, amel, motley pos het carmel :shrugs:
 

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Best guess...shatter (sunkissed cinder) motley?

(e) I only say motley because of the weird split belly pattern. That could just be a result of the shattered pattern.
 
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I was also going to guess Sunkissed Cinder. But having very little experience at identifying morphs I was hesitant to say anything.
 
I'd say SK Cinder. I've not seen a SK Cinder Motley, so I cannot say if Motley is there as well. There could be Motley, looking at the funky pattern in the neck, but I don;t know if that is the combo of SK and Cinder that is doing that.

This is my SK Cinder.
SK can do odd things with a pattern, I just don't know what Motley will add to that.
This might be one you hold back and pair with a Motley, to test it out.
 

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What do you guys think of it being an anery shatter. The parents were produced by Tom Thompson and I asked him about anery he said not intentionally! But the head pattern is similar to some other sk anery stuff and it would account for the dark color. I have looked everywhere I can think and not seen another shatter that drak.
 
Maybe it's also homozygous caramel instead of anery? My caramel cinder is pretty dark. I wouldn't guess that motley is there, I saw an SK cinder motley (personal communication) and the saddles were very....thin. But I guess the phenotype could be variable.

 
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Wow!! She's definitely unique!

As for the odd belly pattern.. it DOES kind of remind me of my old SK Motley. Mine didn't have split checkers like that, but he did have random checkers here and there. Clearly the dorsal pattern doesn't have any indication of Motley, but SK also does odd things to bellies.

Also, I was just checking out some of Walter's available animals today ( :rolleyes: ), and the Cinder Caramels he has available definitely bear a striking resemblance to your beauty. Note that this is not from personal experience, just looking at pictures, but I agree with DuxorW!
 
Caramel is a possible explaination of the color. I'm not as familiar with most caramel combos since I'm not a huge fan of yellow, generally speaking.
 
Just shed yesterday!

Try to get a good shot of her eye color. She was clear of any markings.
 

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It looks like a caramel shatter to me, based on my caramel cinder, and since caramel was in the mix (both parents 50% ph), that's my guess for now. Maybe she'll color up and get some yellow?
 
When I checked with Tom I found out they are 100% het Carmel. But if you look at Walter's Carmel shatters they are light like a shatter. So that's what keeps from jumping on that.
 
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