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What do you think she is!

That's a possibility, again if you look at some of Walter's cinder stuff he has a buttermint that has a similar pattern to my girl! Her motley brother has some crazy pattern going on too!
 
There's a lot left to learn about cinder and pattern. Lava, which as far as I know doesn't affect pattern alone, affects it in lava cinders. Every lava cinder I've seen has a pattern distinct from regular cinders.
 
Well, almost all of them. Most of them seem to have one or more "half-saddles" where the left or right side of the saddle is missing.

Edit: I stand corrected. I see that on cinders and other cinder combines too.
 
I think cinder is really cool. I have to check my lava cinder for some pattern abnormalities. Either way some really cool cinder stuff and love cinder sk. I have been playing with the idea of lavamel shatter but need more snakes. LOL!
 
Lavamel cinders have a bit of a milky appearance to me, but I would love to see a lava shatter!

I will be crossing my lava cinder male to two sunkissed amels 66% ph caramel cinder motley. So maybe lava shatters are in my future.
 
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Right, the only answer I'm 100% confident in saying to "what is she" is HOLDBACK! :cheers:
 
She in blue right now! I take more when she sheds.
 

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If you look at Steve's thread on 432 there is a carmel cinder that almost has the crown, as well as the color and on 441 & 481 there are cinder + that have the same split pattern by the neck.
 
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