When to Brumate

[ghosthousecorns]

Oh Ok I am not talking from experience. Guess I have just been sitting here twiddling my thumbs since 2003. You think I have never raised hatchlings or bred corns, it's all just my opinion. Since you took so much time to research whether I have any experience or not, go ahead and ASSume whatever you want. Because as everyone here knows, I just crawled out from under a cabbage and started keeping corns two days ago
(Yes a little sarcasm there.)

 

[bekers71]

Like I said I have been doing such for yrs and I have a method that works. I never put them back into the same enclosuer after eating they wait for a couple of hours before joining. Regures happen but the snake gives signs that it regured, if you know what to look out for you can spot it. Room is the most important thing, if you have room to build a large shelve then great if not you have to do what you can. All my snakes are housed together They have been for 8 yrs. The reptile Zoo that is close houses all their snakes together aswel. They have been open for 15 yrs and never has there been a problem.

If you have never done so you really cant comment on what could happen, now can you. Your not talking from experiance your talking from your opinion not what did happen to you.
I am talking from experiance and yes you sure can house more than one corn per tank. Corns are not canabalistic by nature, so they will mostly never eat a cage mate. I have seen pics of baby corns that ate their mates but I dont know of the reason behind it. You need to understand the reason before you judge.

And how do you know that ghosthousecorns isn't an experienced breeder? If you have been doing this for 8 yrs then you would also know that suggesting what you are suggesting to a 14 yr old non experienced breeder is possibly setting them up for problems. So you have had success, good for you and the zoo. What about those that haven't had success? That have had one snake get sick to pass it on to the others and all die. Or breeding too young causing egg binding and die. Or one, althouh rare, ate the other. The list goes on and on. But of course you know this because you are experianced.


To the OP- you are young and trying this for the first time, so take your time and do things one step at a time. Listen to the advice given by the others and do plenty of research on breeding and co-housing. Then decide what you want to do. You are off to a good start by asking questions first. Good luck to you.

 

[cyclone]

clear the air

And how do you know that ghosthousecorns isn't an experienced breeder? If you have been doing this for 8 yrs then you would also know that suggesting what you are suggesting to a 14 yr old non experienced breeder is possibly setting them up for problems. So you have had success, good for you and the zoo. What about those that haven't had success? That have had one snake get sick to pass it on to the others and all die. Or breeding too young causing egg binding and die. Or one, althouh rare, ate the other. The list goes on and on. But of course you know this because you are experianced.


To the OP- you are young and trying this for the first time, so take your time and do things one step at a time. Listen to the advice given by the others and do plenty of research on breeding and co-housing. Then decide what you want to do. You are off to a good start by asking questions first. Good luck to you.

I never said he\she had NO breeding experiance all I said is he\she seems not to have any co habbitating experiance. Thats all. There are some that preach don't do it it will cause problems but from my stand it does work and no it has not caused any problems. I do know what to look out for and thank you for caring but I have all my corns in a huge tank so they have all the room in the world plus there are branches and lots of hides. What works for me might not work for others but it wouldn't cost more than $300 to take care of a clutch of offspring. Any 14 yr old can handle that. Corn Snakes are beginner snakes, it does not take a herpatologist to do it.

 

[Iguanagirl8662]

If you have never done so you really cant comment on what could happen, now can you. Your not talking from experiance your talking from your opinion not what did happen to you.
I am talking from experiance and yes you sure can house more than one corn per tank. Corns are not canabalistic by nature, so they will mostly never eat a cage mate. I have seen pics of baby corns that ate their mates but I dont know of the reason behind it. You need to understand the reason before you judge.

Well I have done it, I cohabbed my corns for 5 years after I rescued them and they live together previous to that with no obvious problems. But last year things went bad. They mated and the female was way to small to be bred. All went well with her first clutch but she was extremely skinny and then she double clutched before she put weight back on. I didn't think she would live she was so skinny. She is still working on putting weight back on. After this all happened I sat back and thought of all the stress they had while living together; twitching, curling up together(fighting over the best spot), squishing each other into things. You miss a lot of warning signs when you think everything is fine but when you start learning you start to realize that they really don't like being together.

I also cohabbed two Ball Pythons, they were perfectly fine for a year then without warning one day we came in and one killed the other.

Something bad may never happen to you and I hope it doesn't but if it does it makes you feel like a terrible owner for not doing everything you could to prevent it. I respect that you do things differently, you are not me and you have the right to decide how you want to keep them. I'm just giving you some examples of my experiences.

 

[Drizzt80]

There are some that preach don't do it it will cause problems but from my stand it does work and no it has not caused any problems. I do know what to look out for and thank you for caring but I have all my corns in a huge tank so they have all the room in the world plus there are branches and lots of hides. What works for me might not work for others but it wouldn't cost more than $300 to take care of a clutch of offspring. Any 14 yr old can handle that. Corn Snakes are beginner snakes, it does not take a herpatologist to do it.

I know lots of people that drink and drive and have NEVER been caught by the police NOR killed anyone. Must be perfectly safe and normal behavior that has no repercussions right?!?

Don't tell me I'm comparing apples to oranges either because it's about behavior and it's about choices when potential consequences are known.

D80

 

[starsevol]

I have co-habbing experiance too....
one of my snakes DIED as a result.

RIP Kelsey....


(I now have the opinion that forcing non social animals to live together is forcing them to endure stress that they can't escape, and borders on cruelty. Sorry, snakes DON'T travel in herds.....)