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White corn?

corny_gurl333

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Hey, I've been wondering, is there a cornsnake that's completely white? I think that would be so kewl, and if anyone has any pictures,that would be totally awesome! Mostly I just want to hear anything anyone has to say about genetics, teach me, because I tried to learn what all the terms mean and stuff, but I guess it wasn't in simple enough words, because it didn't stick....Pictures would be helpful for learning for me too. Thanks to anyone who cares to help a newbie! Mwah!
~*Kristin*~
 
Gosh....I just read that over after I posted it, and I sound like a complete dumb@$$! (excuse my english....) I sounded so unintelligent, but I typed it quickly...oh well!
 
Also if you haven't visited Serp's site - www.cornguide.com - check it out. There's a great genetics tutorial on there. That or you can get the book which I have and continually reference.

~Katie
 
Thank you so frikkin much! Now I think I know! It will take a while for me to get a hang of it, and I might still need to go look at a whole bunch of pictures and stuff....but thank you so much! Give me an example to figure out and I'll see if I get the right answers. Someone who knows what they're doing, quiz me. Just tell me what the parents are and I'll figure out what you could get in the clutch. I can only do it if we're positive about the parents genes though, since it's just hypothetical and I can't actually breed them or anything to see if they're het for anything... you know? I really wanna try it out and see if I've got it right. Mwah!
~*Kristin*~
 
LOL...things are easier when it takes you step by step. Try this one: mother is anery het amel and father is a amel het anery. It's not too bad but deals with a couple of different genes and morph names.

~Katie
 
All White Snake

Blizzard

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Yay! Thank you so much! I don't know why I'm so happy, it's just a really pretty picture. And you know, whoever said I could just do a google search or whatever, some people here might have pictures of their snakes that wouldn't be on google or anything. Personal pictures is actually what I was looking for anyways.....
 
Crapola! I seriously thought I had it! I did the chart thingy right, but I don't know how to describe the outcomes in words....now I'm so dissapointed in myself... :bang: Grrrrrrrrrr! Sorry...
 
here's a picture of a blizzard and a snow:
 

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Hey, whoever sent that genetics thingy to me for to figure out, you know, the mom being anery het amel and the dad being amel het anery. I did the chart and I think I might know what it means now. I think that 50% will be snow, 25% will be amel, and 25% will be anery. I really am cornfoozled still, so someone who knows, clear my thoughts....
 
Well, I'm not sure exactly what you are asking... the best advice I can give you is to check out Serps site. This way you can understand how simple recessive genetics work, and what difference heterozygous/homozygous genes will make to a clutch. You're percentages are almost correct. If you were to breed an amel het anery to an anery het amel, your clutch would yield 25% normals het snow (amel & anery), 25% amels het anery, 25% anerys het amel, and 25% snows.

I will also add a few tidbit pics: here is a Glacier (sorry - no flash) and a hatchling Snow (tequila sunrise)
 

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If you want some practice problems that allow you to check your answers, try this:
http://cornguide.com/quiz.htm

If you learn the few vocab words (from an online tutorial or my book or whatever source) you should be able to get through the first section. Until you can convert genotypes to phenotypes, doing predictions is impossible. It's like trying to learn math without knowing what the numbers mean. ;)

So first you need to learn what dominant/codominant/recessive mean.

Then locus and allele (my tutorial online covers these concepts)

Once you know those five words, you know how to "count" in genetics and you can learn how to do the "addition/multiplication" needed to make predictions.

The FOIL method on that Quiz page is an alternative to doing Punnett squares. Just put the two father's (1, 2) genes, and the two mother's (3, 4) genes like this:
12 X 34
and then get the First (13) pair, Outside (14) pair, Inside (23) pair, Last (24) pair which is what FOIL means. :)

You can do another locus: 56 X 78 --> 57, 58, 67, 68

You can do any "one locus" genetics problem with FOIL. It's that easy. :santa:

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If you have two loci it adds another step. Once you've FOILed each locus, you make a grid, putting all outcomes on the first locus going across, and the second locus going down:
<table border=1><tr><td></td><td>13</td><td>14</td><td>23</td><td>24</td></tr><tr><td>57</td><td> </td><td> </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr><td>58</td><td> </td><td> </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr>
<tr><td>67</td><td> </td><td> </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr><tr><td>68</td><td> </td><td> </td><td> </td><td> </td></tr></table>
Then fill in the squares in the grid. This gives you the combined outcomes at both loci, each one being one type of offspring you can hatch. At that point you are doing the intermediate problems, and you should be able to answer the "amel het anery X anery het amel" question. :)

So in order to do that question, you have to first write out the genotypes of an anery het amel and an amel het anery, then do FOIL on the anery locus, FOIL on the amel locus, then combine those on a grid and you get your outcomes listed as genotypes, then convert those genotypes back into "English" descriptions. ;) (It's easier than it sounds, if you learn those 5 terms and then go step by step.)

With practice you will notice patterns and be able to skip steps by doing them in your head. :santa:
 
Sure....I'll keep that in mind....I think I already took your tutorial, but I don't think it stuck. I'm not much of a science junkie, I'm more into my agriculture class....oh well. I think eventually I'll get it. I don't even have a snake yet, I don't know why I'm worried right now! I prolly won't even breed them (if I get two)! Oh well, thanks for that guys! Mwah!
 
just curious about something do all snows/blizzards have red eyes? i'm pretty sure the answer is yes for snows.
 
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