Will a corn snake eat other snakes?

[Lennycorn]

A better question to the OP....
Why ask advice on cornsnakes and then talk about Boas????
Something you want to tell us???

Cause the other forum ignore him??

Just a thought!!

 

[boabass6]

I told you guys I am not separating the boas, and you are the ones getting mad and 'bitching' about it. The boas are fine.

 

[starsevol]

I told you guys I am not separating the boas, and you are the ones getting mad and 'bitching' about it. The boas are fine.

Yup, they are just fine and dandy.
And you are not seeing how cruel and irresponsible you are.
You are shortening their miserable little lives and killing them.
For no good reason.
Go you!!!

I hope you never have kids......

 

[Dorgrim]

are we still arguing this? The evidence is there for both sides. Its really up to the owners to make the choice. I def have my opinions on things but i know I cant force people to change their mind. Something would have to happen outside of this conversations... hell thats the way i learned my lesson <_<;;;

 

[Nanci]

Show me evidence that the _snakes_ benefit from cohabitation, rather than merely tolerate or survive it.

 

[dan803]

Yup, they are just fine and dandy.
And you are not seeing how cruel and irresponsible you are.
You are shortening their miserable little lives and killing them.
For no good reason.
Go you!!!

I hope you never have kids......

Oh believe me, he will.

It's just more important for him to maintain his status as a smart-ass than properly care for his snakes.

 

[jessicalb]

Show me evidence that the _snakes_ benefit from cohabitation, rather than merely tolerate or survive it.

He keeps saying that the snakes cuddle each other so they must want to be together. That is his "evidence".

 

[boabass6]

There is a post somewhere about boas being co habbed and I am going to get it for you.

Tell me again how calling me an idiot is evidence? It really isn't. Boas can be co-habbed people. Like I said, make sure the cage is big enough, make sure its clean, and your snakes will me fine. Let me explain a little further since I am mostly talking to 12 year olds here:

Clean cage= healthy snakes. If the cage is clean and well maintained, there won't be any strange mold or bacterial growth to make the snake sick. Good husbandry is key to keeping snakes healthy. Ask your vet if you don't believe this. If your truly a good snake keeper, such as I am, then co-habbed boas will live just fine, because your taking good care of them.

Good temperature= healthy snakes: If the air temp is good, then the snakes will not develop respiratory issues. It will keep their body temperature up for their immune systems to keep functioning. Snakes are hardy animals, as long as they can be maintained to function properly.

Big cage= healthy snake: Give all your snakes an enclosure to stretch at least 3 quarters of their body. Snakes need to crawl around, its their behavior. You deny them this and they will stress a lot, especially the ones which are both aborial and ground dwelling such as Red Tailed boas. Bull snakes should also have this option, even though they spend a lot of time in a tight burrow.

Fallow these three guidelines and you can house boas together. If you guys are having bacterial infections or illnesses its because YOU are not keeping the snakes properly. There is nothing wrong with keeping BOAS together because they aren't prone to cannibalism. I know there may be rare cases where boas eat other snakes in the wild, but I can guarantee this is VERY VERY RARE. Boas prefer warm blooded food.

 

[boabass6]

I know I've posted this before, and I will only do this one more time:

1. You don't separate your snakes when you feed them. Big mistake. Feed them in a different cage and WASH THEM OFF after feeding before re-introduction to the cage. This eliminates the smell of food. Dawn works just fine.

2. Your an idiot and decide to house species of snakes together that frequently eat other snakes. I would not keep indego snakes with bull snakes, nor black racers with garter snakes, nor king snakes with milk snakes.

3. Your boa went cannibalistic and so it must have been because you co-habbed with another boa, right? In this scenario, you never just say, 'oh, it ate the other snake for no reason...' The snake might be sick and demented. You were not paying attention to the snake's behavior and it has gotten sick, therefore it has gone psycho and eaten another boa because it is deranged. This has happened because you the owner were not A. keeping them in a big enough enclosure B. Keeping the cages clean C. Not keeping a good temp and the snakes got sick. D. you weren't feeding the snakes properly.

 

[susang]

Show me evidence that the _snakes_ benefit from cohabitation, rather than merely tolerate or survive it.

Nanci, the only evidence he has is his own immaturity and stubbornness. He claims we are all 12 year olds and it is our husbandry skills that are at fault, not the natural instincts of the snakes, to be opportunistict feeders.

 

[boabass6]

... He claims we are all 12 year olds and it is our husbandry skills that are at fault, not the natural instincts of the snakes.

Its amazing. Your actually being reasonable. And here I was, thinking everyone was just so redundant...

 

[Susan]

All right folks. Enough is enough. No one is going to change their mind about how they keep their snakes. The co-hab issue has been beaten to well beyond death and on into the afterworld. All that is remaining is name-calling and other insults. That will not be tolerated and more infractions will continue, perhaps going on into temporary bannings if this doesn't stop.

 

[jessicalb]

Susan, I hope this is ok as it's a separate issue and not really related to cohabbing. I just have to ask...

Feed them in a different cage and WASH THEM OFF after feeding before re-introduction to the cage. This eliminates the smell of food. Dawn works just fine.

Are you saying you wash your snakes with dish soap after you feed them and then put them back in the tank?

This seems terribly wrong if it is the case. Please clarify?

 

[Susan]

Susan, I hope this is ok as it's a separate issue and not really related to cohabbing. I just have to ask...



Are you saying you wash your snakes with dish soap after you feed them and then put them back in the tank?

This seems terribly wrong if it is the case. Please clarify?

I thought his statement was quite clear, including his reasoning. :shrugs:

 

[Naagas]

I wash my snakes with dishsoap when they get dirty. I don't know why it would be considered 'terribly wrong'?

 

[jessicalb]

I have read so much about not exposing anything potentially toxic to our snakes, including not even using soap to clean tanks. It seems to me that washing them with soap directly is pretty heavy exposure.

Plus there is the whole not handling snakes more than you have to to put them back after a meal thing.

Am I missing something? I'm definitely open to learning.

 

[snakewispera snr]

All right folks. Enough is enough. No one is going to change their mind about how they keep their snakes. The co-hab issue has been beaten to well beyond death and on into the afterworld. All that is remaining is name-calling and other insults. That will not be tolerated and more infractions will continue, perhaps going on into temporary bannings if this doesn't stop.

Ban me please....
I'm tired of reading the co hab issue that comes along every couple of months....
Or maybe we could just ban any newb that tries to educate the masses as to why they are going to be the ones who can do it properly...

 

[Nanci]

I have read so much about not exposing anything potentially toxic to our snakes, including not even using soap to clean tanks. It seems to me that washing them with soap directly is pretty heavy exposure.

Plus there is the whole not handling snakes more than you have to to put them back after a meal thing.

Am I missing something? I'm definitely open to learning.

I don't think washing the snakes in Dawn is going to hurt anything...

I have snakes that have regurged eating Nutribac-coated mice for at least the next six months after the regurge. NB mixed with mouse juice is like glue! I always rinse the snakes under the faucet before they go back in their cages if they are sticky. No one has regurged from that yet. After a couple times they don't even care, even the flightiest scared-est ones.

 

[ghosthousecorns]

Soaking the snake in soapy water is an old mite remedy, too.

 

[Susan]

Ban me please....
I'm tired of reading the co hab issue that comes along every couple of months....
Or maybe we could just ban any newb that tries to educate the masses as to why they are going to be the ones who can do it properly...

Sorry, Mike, but your punishment is to have to continue to read this sort of stuff along with the rest of us. But then, no one is actually forcing you to read it. As a mod, I'm obligated to keep abreast of "hot" threads like this one.