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Woman's dog mistaken for coyote, set loose in wild

nwheather said:
I am sad for those that lose their pets. I also feel that the majority of the problem is human based in the first place.
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I think if I had a predator gunning for my pets, it would be a dead predator quite fast, regardless of the reason why it was doing it. Just because the issue is human based (and I agree with you that in many cases it is) doesn't mean it's not an issue that needs to be addressed. Aggressively if need be.
 
Butch said:
Until you've witnessed their destruction on an ecosystem first hand it's hard to grasp the impact I speak of.
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See, this strikes me as funny because Coyotes are... yaknow... native to this continent. You'd think that if they always have such a devastating impact upon prey species and ecosystems that this place would have been an ecological mess when westerners arrived.
 
Shiari said:
See, this strikes me as funny because Coyotes are... yaknow... native to this continent. You'd think that if they always have such a devastating impact upon prey species and ecosystems that this place would have been an ecological mess when westerners arrived.
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Right on!!
 
Having grown up in the middle of no-where, and known the destruction coyotes had on my livestock, my lively hood, Yes, they are a pest. Caged animals are a much easier prey than ones that are out in the wild, and yes I have shot my fair share of Coyotes in order to protect what source of food I had. I have also shot raccoons, opossums, rats, and anything else that came after my livestock, up to and including stray dogs and feral cats... Do Coyotes have a place? sure they do, but once they come onto my property, after the easy game. Well, lets just say, game on.

Call me whatever you want, but you would be hard pressed to find a farmer/rancher that would do any less to keep his livelihood safe.
 
Shiari said:
See, this strikes me as funny because Coyotes are... yaknow... native to this continent. You'd think that if they always have such a devastating impact upon prey species and ecosystems that this place would have been an ecological mess when westerners arrived.
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Agreed. Not only that, but humans have a *much* greater (negative) impact on the ecosystems than any "pest" animal.

Outcast said:
Having grown up in the middle of no-where, and known the destruction coyotes had on my livestock, my lively hood, Yes, they are a pest. Caged animals are a much easier prey than ones that are out in the wild, and yes I have shot my fair share of Coyotes in order to protect what source of food I had. I have also shot raccoons, opossums, rats, and anything else that came after my livestock, up to and including stray dogs and feral cats... Do Coyotes have a place? sure they do, but once they come onto my property, after the easy game. Well, lets just say, game on.

Call me whatever you want, but you would be hard pressed to find a farmer/rancher that would do any less to keep his livelihood safe.
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They are a pest because they are an inconveniece. I do not fault you for protecting your livestock, that's not my point. My point is that it's ultimately the human factor that has created this problem.
I am very aware of what farmers/ranchers think about such animals. I do not think it justifies seeking out to eliminate them, such as wolves. Protect your property, but venturing out beyond that to eliminate them, is wrong, IMO. I know people who successfully protect their livestock with dogs, that keep predators off the property.
 
I feel for the woman who lost her old dog, out of her fenced in back yard. That's a shame! BUT Damnit, I laughed so hard at this that the back of my head hurts!

Sorry!

Wayne
 
nwheather said:
They are a pest because they are an inconveniece. I do not fault you for protecting your livestock, that's not my point. My point is that it's ultimately the human factor that has created this problem.
I am very aware of what farmers/ranchers think about such animals. I do not think it justifies seeking out to eliminate them, such as wolves. Protect your property, but venturing out beyond that to eliminate them, is wrong, IMO. I know people who successfully protect their livestock with dogs, that keep predators off the property.
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I can honestly say that I have not ventured off my property to kill any pest animals. And I would never shoot a wolf unless it was absolutely necessary to protect family or friends. Wolfs are something that I would have to involve animal control with, because 1. I like them too much, and 2. they are protected around here.
 
Outcast said:
I can honestly say that I have not ventured off my property to kill any pest animals. And I would never shoot a wolf unless it was absolutely necessary to protect family or friends. Wolfs are something that I would have to involve animal control with, because 1. I like them too much, and 2. they are protected around here.
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Did anyone mention going off their property to slaughter coyotes?? If so, no, I wouldn't do that. Doesn't mean I don't think it's okay to hunt coyotes for pelts or sport. Their populations are increasing... they can sustain controlled hunting. Just not something I'd choose to do.

It would be hard for me to kill any animal, and I'd try to get around it first, but if I absolutely had to, I'd do it, to protect my family, and that includes all my pets.
 
Hypancistrus said:
Did anyone mention going off their property to slaughter coyotes?? If so, no, I wouldn't do that. Doesn't mean I don't think it's okay to hunt coyotes for pelts or sport. Their populations are increasing... they can sustain controlled hunting. Just not something I'd choose to do.

It would be hard for me to kill any animal, and I'd try to get around it first, but if I absolutely had to, I'd do it, to protect my family, and that includes all my pets.
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I did, on the topic of animals such as coyotes, & wolves, that some consider "pests". Because of people that have taken it upon themselves to seek out to eliminate them. (I'm not saying anyone here has or does that, but that lead to wolves, for example, being eliminated in some areas.)
 
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