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Obama Youth?

Careful Mike! There are a couple of them on this forum who are going to be soooo offended that you even brought it up!!
 
I heard about it yesterday. I also heard that he's plainning on visiting some schools (elementary and Jr. High). Some people are taking their kids out of school on the day he comes. I for one, if I find out he's coming to one of my kids' schools, will volunteer to GO with my kids so that I can hear what he has to say and counter (with my own kids) as necessary.

His approval numbers are falling (down to 46% yesterday from 65% in January - Yay!) and he's scrambling to do ANYTHING to reverse that trend. I think this will sink him even further because people will do anything to protect their kids from what seems to be an attempt to "indoctrinate" them.

As for offending others, Beth... who cares? We have a right to be concerned and we have a right to protect our kids.

AND, I also realize you were saying that "tongue-in-cheek". LOL.
 
The_Thunderer said:
I heard about it yesterday. Some people are taking their kids out of school on the day he comes. I for one, if I find out he's coming to one of my kids' schools, will volunteer to GO with my kids so that I can hear what he has to say and counter (with my own kids) as necessary.

His approval numbers are falling (down to 46% yesterday from 65% in January - Yay!) and he's scrambling to do ANYTHING to reverse that trend. I think this will sink him even further because people will do anything to protect their kids from what seems to be an attempt to "indoctrinate" them.
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Fred, I think only the smart people will do anything to protect their kids from indoctrination....and maybe not even the smart people but just the people who are paying attention.....
 
Write letters to THEMSELVES about what they can do to HELP OBAMA????? This really could be an obama youth thing.... It just sickens me to think that kids would be REQUIRED to do this. And he has a lame excuse... "help to keep them in school?" How would having them do that help anything but his campaign and increase the number of worshipers in the child community... I really do think this is the beginning of the obama youth..

Just check out this eerie video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXBbCn2K7bE&feature=related
 
This isn't a dig at you guys, but a Brit that needs something explained to him.....
You have two main parties... Labour and conservative/republican and Democrat... Call them what you want....
You had an election and everyone voted for either/or....
So if he got the majority vote (thats how we do it) you guys are in the minority, right....
Or if your in the majority, how the hell is he in power????
Thats a serious question...... We see the news over here and they don't tell us that you lot are so against him.... We thought he was supposed to be a breath of fresh air that was blowing through America....
 
This is my little Jimmy, we call him Jamal. I am so proud.
 

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Castro used candy. Hitler used the military "games" and "camps." Obama is using the letters to tell how the kids can help HIM. Not America. Not the office of the president...but HIM PERSONALLY. It is all indoctrination. Dictators get into office and they make people (especially the younger) believe that getting him out isn't even thinkable. Obviously, there is no similarities at all between what he does and what others have done. None at all. Anyone that sees one in insane.

Mike (the ~mike~ one), the news doesn't always report the truth. For or aginst my personal opinions it doesn't matter: they are often WAY too biased. Just don't trust it. Some Americans are still completely in his corner, some are completely against him, but more and more of the "middle ground" are leaving his side and leaning away from him. Plus, he was voted in on his promises - many of which are the OPPOSITE of what he is doing now. It doesn't matter if he was elected. We don't have to respect him if he lied to obtain the office. We don't have to calmly accept what he is doing. The MAN was voted in - not his policies. Those have to be voted in my Congress and such no matter HOW much he hates that fact. Well, except the Czars.

Also, majority doesn't win that election. We are a republic and not a true democracy. In general, the majority of VOTERS that actually vote (not people) do usually decide who wins, but that isn't always the case. Remember it is a republic. It doesn't matter here, though. I don't personally feel the system is broken. I like the republic system. It's the fact that one party more than another has found they can BUY votes by giving money from workers to nonworkers, illegal aliens, etc. It's the breads and circuses concept coming to life, and the workers that have to pay for it aren't all liking it.

The anger is because more and more is taken from the productive members of society and given to the users in society who do nothing to work with it. Wht would a productive member of society continue to work hard if it means more and more of his money just keeps going to people that refuse to work? Heck, even my wife and I have taken jobs for less than what we could get elsewhere because we don't see the point. Why worker harder (and be more productive) just to give more to the lazy ones that won't work? We have enough now. More and it'd just mean we give MORE to those that do nothing. ...and this is why socialism fails.
KJ
 
Oh, and I encourage everyone to keep their kids home from school that day. Protest to your school board. Stop this - let them know how much you don't want them indoctrinated - or even listening to something that could be perceived as such training...whether it is or not!

I know mine would NOT be going to school that day if he was old enough to be in school. I hope people see this for the risk this is!

...letters to how they can help Obama, my arse. How about sending him a copy of the constitution. That might help him. Maybe he would read it if a kid mailed it to him....lol.
 
snakewispera snr said:
This isn't a dig at you guys, but a Brit that needs something explained to him.....
You have two main parties... Labour and conservative/republican and Democrat... Call them what you want....
You had an election and everyone voted for either/or....
So if he got the majority vote (thats how we do it) you guys are in the minority, right....
Or if your in the majority, how the hell is he in power????
Thats a serious question...... We see the news over here and they don't tell us that you lot are so against him.... We thought he was supposed to be a breath of fresh air that was blowing through America....
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Politicians (please recall they're the post-larval forms of lawyers) are elected based on campaign promises. To be elected these days, a politician has to campaign on very centrist themes. This is especially true on the national front - the electorate is split almost exactly 50-50 "left" and "right". A skillful politician is particularly adept at spinning his campaign message to mask his true intents. Once elected, the hand-on-heart promises made during the campaign are sloughed off like the shiny camouflage they are, revealing the slimy worm of truth within. This past election pitted a young, attractive, suave smooth-talking career politician against a crusty, grizzled, crippled war veteran (who has been a career politician since the war). The suave smooth-talker spun an artfully woven web based primarily on getting away from George W. Bush, and his support organization was very, very good at promulgating the message contained in the web. The war veteran based his campaign on maintaining the status quo, for the most part, with the message that things had been plodding along fairly quietly, and that's perhaps not a bad thing. When the lunacy in the financial markets finally went China Syndrome, many voters were convinced that they'd had enough of the status quo, and bought into the No More Bush message. Many other voters just gave up in anger and frustration, and stayed home. This election had more people than ever before admitting that they voted against someone rather than for someone.

That's my take on how we got where we are. Neither side can rightfully claim an actual "majority" these days. Campaigns are more willing than ever to twist words and focus on trivial tripe to portray their opponents as something voters should shun. Combine that with the fact that voters are too danged lazy to get off their dead butts and look at the record behind the rhetoric, and the result is people voting based on incessant media hype. Centrist campaign promises are quickly abandoned, and the politicians show their true stripes by a lurch to the extremist fringes. The carapace of camouflage used during the campaign is now crumbling off, and the earlier breath of fresh air is being overwhelmed by the stench of truth underneath. The grossly-uninformed voters who were astraddle the fence and went for the no-more-Bush "change" message and promises are realizing they were duped (again), so the mood is souring quickly.
 
I think indoctrination is a pretty extreme accusation in this case, considering how well the US has indoctrinated it's population to hate any political system that isn't the American one.
 
Nova_C said:
I think indoctrination is a pretty extreme accusation in this case, considering how well the US has indoctrinated it's population to hate any political system that isn't the American one.
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Yeah, but I'm OK with that indoctrination.....LOL.

Seriously, if he would be saying write a letter saying what they can do to help THE COUNTRY, or AMERICA, or even the executive branch (iffy on this one), I don't think the uproar would be as large. It's the "what can you do to help ME" as if it is our job to help a public SERVANT personally instead of the other way around. That's the difference. It's almost like saying, "you serfs need to help the king."
 
KJUN said:
Oh, and I encourage everyone to keep their kids home from school that day. Protest to your school board. Stop this - let them know how much you don't want them indoctrinated - or even listening to something that could be perceived as such training...whether it is or not!

I know mine would NOT be going to school that day if he was old enough to be in school. I hope people see this for the risk this is!

...letters to how they can help Obama, my arse. How about sending him a copy of the constitution. That might help him. Maybe he would read it if a kid mailed it to him....lol.
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I thought about that... but being in the situation I'm in - I'm also taking care of 9 girls who I love as my own, but AREN'T - I've decided to let them go to school, provided that my wife and I can be there to sit with them and listen to what the President has to say. Then, after we get home, I will have heard what he had to say and can listen to any questions or concerns that my children have. That way, I can also show how insidious some of his comments are and they're better prepared to defend their stance with their classmates & teachers.

NOTE: I have had young ladies DISAGREE with me... and I'm fine with that. As long as they can actually come up with an argument FOR their belief. I'm NOT into my own imposed "indoctrination". I just demand - rather sternly - that they have a reason for what they believe in.

With MY OWN kids... different story. Well... slightly! :)
 
Drizzt80 said:
. . . says the socialist Canadian who does nothing but take front and center in arguments on American politics . . . :cheers:

D80
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Really.

At what point have I shown that I've been 'indoctrinated' with socialism? When I said that Canada's implementation of UHC was poor? Or when I showed statistics and other proofs about the problems with the American system? Or when I said that you could maintain a capitalist system and just mandate coverage in order to provide better health care?

Quite a few of the responses I received were the equivalent of "Socialism is bad! You are wrong!"

Looking at something objectively and presenting evidence of your opinion is not symptomatic of indoctrination. It is the exact opposite.
 
i'm not sure what you just said Crazy corn....

I have way to much to say..... So, i will say it later, because i am waiting for a shipment of snakes. :)
 
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