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"Angry White Man"

jazzgeek said:
I'm White. I'm a male. Oft times, I'm angry. But I'm not an "Angry White Male".

So, scalpel, please. Thank you.

Whereas Mr. Hubbell is carefully pandering to the (fears of the) Angry White Man.

Wrong. This demographic was given the tag "NASCAR Dads" (to contrast to the "soccer mom" demographic in the Clinton era) back in the 2004 election cycle. They've been recognized.

OK, as in all claim-makers, you have the "burden of proof". Show me the research that states that the Most Important Demographic In The 2008 Election is the AWM, and I'll believe you.

Practically every media source I've seen, "mainstream" or not, has cited the Hispanic demographic to be the "critical" one in this election. According to this source, it's how McCain took the Florida primary.

And again, your source is???

(So far, as I see it, Mr. Hubbell's generalizations in defining the "AWM" are just that - generalizations, an attempt to paint the AWM as an "Everyman". His pandering to his readership is no different than a candidate pandering to the special interests he previously cites.)

Fan of irony that I am, I think the whole tone of the op/ed piece is along the lines of "The AWM has been forgotten in this campaign season, and it's time for us to stand up and be counted".

But there's a problem here in that whole "The AWM has been forgotten" premise. It's whiny and reeks of victimhood!

Therefore, ironic.

As for the "Press 'one' for English"......any business not recognizing the fact that their markets are not just English-speaking is one that is responsive to their marketplace, and will ensure their long term survival. Any business denying - or worse, consciously limiting their customer base will do so at their own peril.

There's a reason that there's "www" before your web domains, and not "usww". Welcome to the 21st Century, Mr. Hubbell. Learn to compete, or die.

If there truly were no need for the continual interpretation or re-interpretation of the Constitution, we would have considered it "fully formed" and mature upon its ratification in 1788. We, as a country, would be basing our functions and operations to this day on that 220 year old document.

But look!!! Three years later, they started adding these pesky "Amendment" things! You know, those radical ideas like "prohibiting establishment of a State religion", "the right to keep and bear arms", "freedom of the press", "trial by jury", "abolition of slavery", "the right of women to vote", and so on.

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? That the people of the United States were living, changing beings?

It's the job of Supreme Court to interpret "the law of the land". I've found - myself included - that one applauds the Court when you agree with a particular decision, and whines about the Court when you disagree.

But after I'm done whining, I deal with it, and move on.

If THIS isn't pandering, I don't know what is.

What, exactly, is an "honest day" of work? Is the work of a Justice less "honest" because he works primarily with his mind and not his hands? Is it less "honest" because he doesn't have to spend an extra two hours on the phone to close a deal?

Agreed, and I'm grateful to those who defend my country. But gun ownership or military service are not "wholly owned" by the AWM. Shoot, I own a shotgun and don't consider myself (as I prefaced in this post) an AWM.

After a LOT more generalizations and pandering, we come to:

More irony. The whole tone of the article is emotional pandering to the AWM "base".

And is pleasantly surprised when "people of certain backgrounds" exhibit behavior that doesn't typify the "worst stereotypes of their race"?

(Anyone remember Bill O'Reilly's "M-F'er, I want more iced tea!" imbroglio?)

I call "veiled racism".

More tripe:

That "incomprehensible idiot" probably has a degree in Engineering and is probably better educated than the caller. They're granting a higher percentage "technical" (engineering and science) degrees than the US is. It's all about competition in the open marketplace. Again, deal with it, or die.

(But yeah, it's still incomprehensible. ;) )

Finally, we come to this gem:

What a coincidence! Given that 70 percent of the nation disapproves of GWB (compared to the 56% disapproval of HRC), there are some people who can't fathom why anyone wanted him as their leader.



regards,
jazz
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Bravo, bravo, bravissimo.
 
desertanimal said:
Bravo, bravo, bravissimo.
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Why thank you, Steph.

But don't think I didn't notice that you omitted my explanation of why I'm not voting for Hillary. Don't worry; I know that it's because you're a girl and girls are all emo and stuff, but I'll rationally guide you back to the promised land. After all, we're all family here.

(Well, that should seal it for me. Been nice knowing you all.)

:sidestep:

regards,
jazz



 
Joejr14 said:
Racism-
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.


Do you get offended when someone suggests that Italians are good cooks?
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Old people are bad drivers - research has proven it. They have more accidents per mile driven than any other age group including teenagers. And if it were not true it would be ageism not racism.
 
Well I guess my trip to the coast had me missing all of this.
I will not re-iterate the feeling about this article. I am not a man, nor an angry white man, I'm not going to say things like woman aren't the only emotional humans. I won't offer proof of the misogynist, racist, sexist statements in this article, nor will I justify it by saying it's a metaphor.
I will say this I will not vote for any person who wants to tell me what I can do with my body.
I will seriously consider any candidate with a better plan for education.
I will consider any candidate with a better health care plan.
 
jodu said:
Old people are bad drivers - research has proven it. They have more accidents per mile driven than any other age group including teenagers. And if it were not true it would be ageism not racism.
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Would you prefer the analogy that Asian women are bad drivers?
 
Joejr14 said:
Would you prefer the analogy that Asian women are bad drivers?
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stereotype
noun
1 a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing : the stereotype of the woman as the carer | sexual and racial stereotypes.

Some stereotypes are negative, some are not. Some stereotypes are correct and some are not. It is the way in which they are used that might turn it into a racist remark.
 
jodu said:
stereotype
noun
1 a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing : the stereotype of the woman as the carer | sexual and racial stereotypes.

Some stereotypes are negative, some are not. Some stereotypes are correct and some are not. It is the way in which they are used that might turn it into a racist remark.
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Or we could just understand that most stereotypes exist for a reason, and it's been my personal experience that a good portion of the time that I see someone doing something REALLY stupid on the road, it's been an Asian woman. I encountered that a lot at school. Does that make me a racist? Is that a racist comment?

Perhaps this entire world and especially this country should stop playing the 'I'm a victim!' role, and just relax a bit. Just because it's a stereotype doesn't mean someone is making a racist remark, nor does it make them a racist.

Please, I hear enough about how everyone is a victim when I'm watching Hillary run her mouth on the news---the last thing I need is to see it here as well.
 
jazzgeek said:
Why thank you, Steph.

But don't think I didn't notice that you omitted my explanation of why I'm not voting for Hillary. Don't worry; I know that it's because you're a girl and girls are all emo and stuff, but I'll rationally guide you back to the promised land. After all, we're all family here.

(Well, that should seal it for me. Been nice knowing you all.)

:sidestep:

regards,
jazz
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:D I only didn't include that because it wasn't a dissection of the original post, which is what I was applauding, because I thought it skillful, skillful like a practiced anatomist.

I don't care who you vote for. I'm sure you'll give it very serious, careful, intelligent, rational thought, which is more than I would wager for the intended audience of the article, among whom, as you point out, the article's author was attempting foment anger, bitterness, and discontent, probably so that they would be sure to vote on the basis of their emotions.
 
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