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can you feed cooked chicken?

well,I myself can be outspoken at times too. I actually prefer to deal with ppl who tell it like it is rather than the others... just my personal preferance :)

but I have to say this.... the guy who has my burm at his house feeds her whole chickens and she is doing wonderfully :) but this thread also brings to my mind about little baby corns who appear to be afraid of mice in any form... I hate force feeding and this thread is making me wonder if maybe offering a little peice of cooked chicken or a pinkie rubbed with that smell might help my last little hold out to eat?? What do you think?? this has made me very curious about it maybe helping little ones who dont want to eat.. would be great if it worked!! This might be an old thread but it does give another option to try :)
 
Cat_Eyed_Lady said:
well,I myself can be outspoken at times too. I actually prefer to deal with ppl who tell it like it is rather than the others... just my personal preferance :)

but I have to say this.... the guy who has my burm at his house feeds her whole chickens and she is doing wonderfully :) but this thread also brings to my mind about little baby corns who appear to be afraid of mice in any form... I hate force feeding and this thread is making me wonder if maybe offering a little peice of cooked chicken or a pinkie rubbed with that smell might help my last little hold out to eat?? What do you think?? this has made me very curious about it maybe helping little ones who dont want to eat.. would be great if it worked!! This might be an old thread but it does give another option to try :)
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I have used the broth to sent pinkies and some took it that would not eat unsented pinkies
 
I tried that on her.... she is being super stubborn.. tried plain f/t, live, washed (2 dif kinds of soap) broth scented, tuna scented and lizard skin... I think I got them all we tried.... she hatched over 2 months ago so its been a real trial. She has been force fed many times to try to keep her weight up, she went from 6 grams to 4 grams... I am just out of ideas and I thought maybe This smell might work??
 
My best bet would be to FF as much as you can then put into brumation. When they come outr about 1/4 to 1/2 start to eat. Also change cage and wher tghe cage put it in another room is a diffrent set up wash with bleach everything and thas was in t . change everything the type of substrate you been usins ad dont fee it fo a week after you change the setup. Have you tried putting into a smasll continer with no holes for a 1/2 a hour in a dark closet.
 
What she is in now is a 3 cup gladware container with papertowel for substrate and of course a little condiment cup for water. for feeding... we have been leaving her in that same container but removeing everything but her and the mouse and then covering with a towel for 2 hours before peaking... tried leaving her there over night too but nothing has worked. I appreciate you trying to help me with my last little holdout... She is so small that every time I have to forcefeed her I am terrified that I will kill her.
 
I think there is an enormous difference between "telling it like it is" and acting like a jerk if someone disagrees with you or questions you. Remember, the truly great exude greatness. The ones who aren't so great have to keep reminding you just how incredibly wonderful and experianced they are! I sure as heck don't know everything. I don't have all the answers and never pretend to. Life is for learning.

That said, Cat-eyed lady, I am sorry your little girl is being such a handful! I have tried chicken in the past on non feeders, with no luck. I used breast meat but I wonder if they might have preferred dark meat (I know I do!). Maybe try turkey if chicken doesn't work. And have you tried scenting with tunafish? I always had the best luck with washing the pinkies in warm water and soap. If one soap didn't work, I would try another.

I think a huge problem is that in many cases its just a matter of finding the right "trigger". But considering that trying to feed them stresses them out you have to wait so many days in between. It's finding the "right trigger" before time runs out.
 
I hope the 3 cup glad ware is very small Dont get me wrong I have some hatchlings the do fine in a 16 oz deli cup others would not eat or only a couple of times I know it sounds funny but I would put her in a bigget cage around 5 gal critter cage and put a pinky ( newborn) at inght time . Set it up with a few hiding places.

starsevol, next time use the chicken or turkey fat . slow boil on low flame. you want to get that boiled chicken greese. use thigh or save chicken fat when you clean the chicken. My mom taught me before frying chicken to remone any big hunks of fat. I save this and give to my females wit a mouse after egglaying It pumps the back up. Heck if you dont maybe wasting a thigh Smash it with the back of a cleaver , break up all the bones so the marrow inin the water. That will give it a diffrent flavor. You know how mamales love the marrow in a kill. also you can try boil chicken skin. go to your bucher. when they make chicken cuttlets they throw away the skin you might get it free. Try turkey one never knows what the trigger is.

now with lizards I had hatchlings not take lizzards sent but eat a lizard. try mole skink, anole, eastren fence lizzards. tghese atre native lizards the are in the range and are the pray lizard of baby corns and most rat and king snake babies on the eastern cost of N. Amercia. I would never tell any one to do this because of pathingens and parrasites, but you may have to feed it a live small lizard. maybe some on the board might fence lizards or mole skinks if not bight the bullit and get a small wild caught from the local pet store
 
Calamity is still my fussiest feeder, at one point she would only eat the wings or thighs from f/t day-old chicks. I broke the thigh bones as much as possible before she ate the little drumsticks. Now she eats live or f/k mice most of the time.
 
I have heard of condro pythons breeders using soft chicken feathers on a moist pre washed pinky. I wonder if finch or cannery feathers would work from the local pet store.
 
Wow, This post really blew up. I was only asking a question for a substitute feeder while the pet store was out of pinkies. All of the arguing was not needed!! All you had to do was post your oppinion not bicker at each other. As far as the people that bashed Vin for experimenting you all are a little... :bang: :toiletgra :headbang: :twohammer ! Seems to me he has been doing this for some time and has a lot of knowledge of corns in the wild. I'm all for providing as much of a natural environment for my reptiles this includes giving them food that they would have access to in the wild or at least as close as possible. As for the people who did not bash eachothers opinions thank you for the advice.

I tried to feed a piece of cooked chicken but Marley did not eat it. Since then I have gotten a hold of some pinkies and she ate it fine. Thanks again.

Yes a lot of people here and on other forums seem a little over sensitive!!! :sobstory:
 
Sometimes there's more history than would be apparent to someone who's been here less than two weeks. Judge not lest ye be judged... ;)
 
allright thats cool at least you found some mice good luck and wellcom to the show!!! :crazy02: I mean forum. :wavey:
 
dizzl said:
I'm all for providing as much of a natural environment for my reptiles this includes giving them food that they would have access to in the wild.....
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I tried to feed a piece of cooked chicken...
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regards,
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dizzl said:
Wow, This post really blew up. I was only asking a question for a substitute feeder while the pet store was out of pinkies.
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Out of curiosity... why not keep a dozen frozen pinks just in case this happens? Though I know not all corns will take f/t instead of live (which is the only reason I can think of for having to wait while a pet store is out... if one plans ahead and buys the frozen before they totally run out of food) it might be worth a try.

I tried to feed a piece of cooked chicken but Marley did not eat it. Since then I have gotten a hold of some pinkies and she ate it fine. Thanks again.
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Think about it this way.

Snakes like their steak rare. Really rare. Why would they want meat that's been cooked and toughened?

You might have had more success with raw chicken, but that's still just meat and does not have the mineral and vitamin content that your snake needs - that comes from the bones and gut contents. Meat's protein - which is good for growth - and fat - good for energy - but you can die of malnutrition eating nothing but muscle meat.
 
But is better than nothing I rather something than nothin. any way why dont you ask corn morphs about the snakes he is getting from me at the Hamm show . All the parents were on chicken diet before and after egglaying and ask him about the juvie's and adults that were raised up on a mostly cooked chicken diet
 
Slightly off topic,

But I have a pair of Savannah Cats that I feed what is called a BARF diet. BARF stands for Bones And Raw Flesh and Biologically Appropriate Raw Food.....in reading up on it I always read that animal products given to other animals should NEVER be cooked....cooking destroys a LARGE portion of the nutritional value of the food. Also if an animal in the wild eats WHOLE animals, in camtivity it also needs WHOLE animals. The nutrients a snake would get from, say, a m,ouse or lizard or bird chick come from the WHOLE animal....skin, fur, feathers, organs, brains, eyes, stomach contents etc.

Now this always made sense to me......so I for one will not be feeding my snakes cooked chicken any time soon.

Just my .02.
 
I don't have a dog or cat but have heard wonderful things about the BARF diet. I know a vet who also runs a small animal rescue who swears by it. She had a chronically ill doberman that had digestive problems, a dislocated disk in his back, and cancer. Even with these problems, he was working in the field, winning obediance trials and playing like a puppy. His fur was like satin, so soft. He died in his sleep at the age of 9. She lost her best friend.


But she credits that diet for his great quality of life.
 
Originally Posted by dizzl
I'm all for providing as much of a natural environment for my reptiles this includes giving them food that they would have access to in the wild.....


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I tried to feed a piece of cooked chicken...


Like I said before: I did not plan on feeding cooked chicken as a staple only temporary.

You might have had more success with raw chicken, but that's still just meat and does not have the mineral and vitamin content that your snake needs - that comes from the bones and gut contents. Meat's protein - which is good for growth - and fat - good for energy - but you can die of malnutrition eating nothing but muscle meat.

I was only worried about the cleanliness of the chicken thats why I wanted to know to cook it or not.


Sometimes there's more history than would be apparent to someone who's been here less than two weeks. Judge not lest ye be judged...


First off I did not judge any one! I do not appreciate people who have to argue their point with others in a rude manner. All I did was ask for info, some gave their views respectfully while some acted like little school girls when they don't get their way. And I would love to see you or any one here judge me!!! You do not know me as I do not know you. All I know is if you or any one else were to judge me you would only do so knowing that you are safe far away from me!!
 
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