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For those of you who house your snakes together... question!

Corny Noob said:
Since this particular inquiry was yet to be adressed.

Pet stores don't have the room to house snakes seperatly. I used to work at petco and all the corns are fed in the same enclosure at the same time. I remember when one regurged, and another baby that already had a pink in its stomach ate the regurge. I thought it was going to explode because it just could not handle the two pinks.

They do it out of convience, the animals are products to be moved.
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But see, I don't get that either... there was a pet store rather close to me that only had big arboreal tanks for the reptiles. However, inside those big tanks were a bunch of small kritter keepers and tubs that were housing '08s. ALL SEPARATED. Granted, it might not look the greatest, but if it's what is best for the animal, why not go that way?
 
I know of a person who keeps multiple corns together, as in ALL the males together and ALL the females together, not just two but multiple snakes per enclosure. I think she'd be lynched if she came to this site and said some of the things I have heard her say about cohabbing. I have of course had a lively discussion or two with this individual, and so far the only point she has conceded is that it is important for genetics to keep them seperate so you know which snake bred with which. As far as health issues or stress this person claims her snakes are happy as can be, etc. It's hard sometimes to make people understand these things until they experience a problem first hand, be it regurge, cannibalism, refusing to eat. But with some people that is the only way they will learn, you can have hundreds of experienced people telling them not to cohabitate and they can't understand why it's wrong. After all, they say "My snake looks happy! It's healthy!" But can you really look at a snake and recognize the signs of stress? It's not like they have a variety of facial expressions or can whimper like a dog. If you truly love your animals, do what is best for them and not what is most convenient for you.
 
But can you really look at a snake and recognize the signs of stress? It's not like they have a variety of facial expressions or can whimper like a dog.
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they don't have facial expressions but if you got snakes you know they can show this in other ways.
 
Or, it can be so subtle that the snake is stressed but you don't know it UNTIL it gets so bad it starts to show in those other ways. The point is that you don't want to wait until something obvious like a regurge, refusing to eat, or something like that. But with that being said, I am not going to argue further since you obviously already know everything (and I'm out of peanuts too)
 
I keep my hatchlings together. They don't snuggle though. I used keep my older ones together. They cuddled a lot and I fed them sepretly.
 
JakeSnake said:
I keep my hatchlings together. They don't snuggle though. I used keep my older ones together. They cuddled a lot and I fed them sepretly.
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And when they regurge.. how do you know which one did it??? Do you know if all the poop is coming from one snake or if each snake is eliminating regularing? How do you know?
 
Snakes don't "snuggle." They both attempt to occupy the same optimal conditions in the viv. Sometimes they want the same thing, sometimes they don't. Same as in the wild- they aren't snuggling, they all want the same perfect condition. They aren't friends, they don't feel affection for one another. They just want the same thing, and if neither one will give in, then they are both in the same space, and stressed because of the unapparent-to-us-humans conflict.
 
Corny Noob said:
Pet stores don't have the room to house snakes seperatly.
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What? I own a pet shop, some 40 snakes for sale at any given time, all are housed separately. I've been in a lot of shops, and honestly can't recall seeing co-habbing in a long time. It doesn't take a lot of room for a reptile rack.
 
elrojo said:
What? I own a pet shop, some 40 snakes for sale at any given time, all are housed separately. I've been in a lot of shops, and honestly can't recall seeing co-habbing in a long time. It doesn't take a lot of room for a reptile rack.
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Well obviously if you own it, it's not a chain store.
Don't get your panties all up in a bunch. The majority of pet stores when they have tons of snakes in at once cohab. It's true. Don't think I'm calling you a bad guy. :uhoh:
 
My "panties" aren't "all up in a bunch" at all and I don't see how you got that from my reply. My local PetSmart didn't have any co-habs last time I was in (about a week ago), and I'm trying to think of the last time I saw a store do that. My only point is that it doesn't seem to be a common practice, in my neck of the woods anyway.
 
Well petsmarts don't ususally carry as many herps as petco does. All the snakes are solitary, but the other animals are all crammed in a space the size of a 2.5gal or a 5 gal.
 
elrojo said:
What? I own a pet shop, some 40 snakes for sale at any given time, all are housed separately. I've been in a lot of shops, and honestly can't recall seeing co-habbing in a long time. It doesn't take a lot of room for a reptile rack.
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That's the only complaint I have about my local reptile store... he co-habs most of his. The one time I said something, he used the excuse that that was how his customers like to see them :( I'm not buying that, but then again, its not my store. Space is at a premium there and the snakes that are for sale don't stay around that long... oh well...
 
There was one time I went to a LPS.
They had hatchling kings hatched together....

I asked him why he was doing that when they were known cannibals, hence their names.

He told me they wouldn't eat each other and that I didn't know what I was talking about.

I haven't been back since.
 
Weebonilass said:
That's the only complaint I have about my local reptile store... he co-habs most of his. The one time I said something, he used the excuse that that was how his customers like to see them :( I'm not buying that, but then again, its not my store. Space is at a premium there and the snakes that are for sale don't stay around that long... oh well...
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At least someone is selling them! The reptile market is really down around these parts. I might move one or two a week and sell for less than 1/2 the price of PetSmart. 2008 common morphs are $35, 2007's are $50.
 
JakeSnake said:
None of my 8 snake I've had has regured!
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There is always a first time... it will happen eventually, I can almost guarantee it. It took me six years for my first one. Doesn't change the fact that if one does in a communal tank, you have no idea which one gave up it's dinner.
 
And it doesn't change the fact that jakesnake refuses to listen, and selfishly continues to put his own convienance over the welfare of his animals.
 
I really wish I would have been on this site when I co-habbed my corns... If I were, I wouldn't have lost the one I did (cannibalism).
 
There is a HUGE difference between co-habbing because you don't know any better, and co-habbing for your own selfish reasons after more experianced keepers tell you it's wrong.
(((HUGS))) Robbie.
 
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