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Frosted Corns

Warning: Enough is enough! The mod team is getting sick and tired of having to deal with the same issue over and over again. General membership - Put Carpe Serpentis on "ignore" if you are tired of his posts! Carpe Serpentis - I would recommend to you to refrain from making hybrid posts in every thread you possibly can as I am now seriously going to consider it flaming on your part depending upon the actual thread topic and what you post.
 
Susan said:
Warning: Enough is enough! The mod team is getting sick and tired of having to deal with the same issue over and over again. General membership - Put Carpe Serpentis on "ignore" if you are tired of his posts! Carpe Serpentis - I would recommend to you to refrain from making hybrid posts in every thread you possibly can as I am now seriously going to consider it flaming on your part depending upon the actual thread topic and what you post.
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I think this is a good idea. The obsessive steering of any topic to hybrid speculation has become distracting to the point of driving other members away.
 
I have long had this user on ignore, but unfortunately he is quoted in every thread that he upsets someone in. I still try very hard not to read or respond. Without question I enjoy my time less on this forum because of one user.
 
Well I'm not sure what you mean by my due. But I'm not getting in a time wasting match with you. We can be civil to one another.
 
nmoore601 said:
Well I'm not sure what you mean by my due. But I'm not getting in a time wasting match with you. We can be civil to one another.
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Giving you your due is the same as giving you props.
Just because I don't like you doesn't mean I can't agree with you from time to time.
 
Looking at some of these posts makes me think one my snakes portrays the frosted trait. I'd only ever seen or heard this to be in amels. Do my caramel's saddles have frosting?
 

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I woulnt say nothing abnormal.

That's my lil opinion. I would like to see the whole snake. Is ultra involved?
 
Dad and kids...pretty frosty.

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Is Frosted a gene, trait, or linebred trait which behaves like a gene, or something else kinda like something but not quite that either?
Is Frosted always homozygous ultra, that is, can one be visually frosted but het ultra?
 
good question dave. the only one i have that's frosted is my ts anery, which probably has ultra in him.
 
Here is a frosted corn we had C9C, i know the lighting suck, its not photo shopped. I will find more of frosteds we have or had...DSC_0202.JPG

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What/who/where is that one from Nick?

FWIW I can only speak of results I have gotten from breeding TS line snakes. They were never marketed as "frosted" corns that I know of. That the original TS female and her F1 progeny were frosted was the main identifier in labeling the line a hybrid or unpure line. It (frosting) shows up in 1st generations (see Cents amel pic on page 2). My linebred results have been very similar to pictures Don S had in his gallery of Frosted corns, and knowing what I know about his and the original TS leads me to have made a "confident assumption" ;) about mine. Could I be wrong? 100% absolutely.
 
I'm sure many of you already know this, but there are many "pure" lines of cornsnakes that can also display substantial stippling/frosting in their saddle blotching as well.

This is a male ghost corn I used to own that was produced back around 1990, and it has ZERO TS, frosted/grey rat influence whatsoever. The void of pigment in the case of this ghost is nothing more than where the red pigment (erythrin) would have normally been in the saddles. That said, many normally pigmented corns can have light voids of stippling as well. Only difference being is that it isn't due to grey rat geneflow.


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Doug that could mark the difference between "pure" corns that show frosting via a loss of saddle pigment vs "frosted corns", gray rat/corn crosses that gained white pigment in the saddles :)
 
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