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How do we get the temp up?

amyr

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We have a UTH, 2 UV bulbs, and a rock heater and the temp still won't get up to 80 on the warm side. What are we doing wrong?
 
Crikey - with that lot, it should be tropical in there! The UTH alone should give you the proper temp at ground level (where the snake is).

Where in the tank are you measuring the temp and what are you using to measure it?

Do you have any/all of that kit attached to a thermostat?

Corns don't need UV, so you can turn those lights off.
 
We are using a digital thermometer with a probe. I just read about putting the probe on the substrate, so I have done that and the temp showing is 77.5. I don't get it.
 
the UV lights are the only things getting the temp up in the cage. I don't understand why the UTH isn't doing the job. I'll take a picture of the cage and maybe you can help me figure it out.
 
It's certainly a bit of a mystery to me.

Measuring temps with a digital thermometer at substrate level down the warm end, is exactly right to take the maximum temp.

Are the UTH, hot rock and lights all down one end? And are you using a thermostat?

Sorry in advance - there are likely to be a few more questions as we try to narrow down what's going on for you!
 
Well I gotta tell you I'm not entirely sure why it's not registering the temps it should. How long have you had the heater set up for? What size is it?

Also ditch the heat rock ASAP! They're herp killers for sure.
 
Are the UTH and hot rock actually warm to the touch, or do they feel completely cold to you?
 
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It's certainly a bit of a mystery to me.

Measuring temps with a digital thermometer at substrate level down the warm end, is exactly right to take the maximum temp.

Are the UTH, hot rock and lights all down one end? And are you using a thermostat?

Sorry in advance - there are likely to be a few more questions as we try to narrow down what's going on for you!

We are not using a thermostat for the cage. yes, the heat rock, UTH and the lights are all on one end, the end the thermometer is at.
 
Hmm cute little set up, but it's also pretty hard to make a tempature gradient with a cage that has such a small floor space. What about the question of whether or not you can actually feel heat coming off of the objects?
 
Well I gotta tell you I'm not entirely sure why it's not registering the temps it should. How long have you had the heater set up for? What size is it?

Also ditch the heat rock ASAP! They're herp killers for sure.

Yes. The hot rock can fluctuate way too much and can cause burns. As for raising the temperatures: You may want to move your corn's cage. You can place it under the sun, but not so it creates an greenhouse effect and it gets too hot. Also, If it's in, lets say.... A basement that's at 40 degree F temperature, it may be very hard or improbable to get it up to the proper temperature. Then you may need to move it. My corn's cage was cold at first, but then I moved it in an area where there was a little more sunglight. It worked out great. A little sunlight could go a long way. :)

And guessing from the devices you named, you probably have them spread out over the tank. It is only necessary to have heating items over/under one half of the cage.
 
Well I gotta tell you I'm not entirely sure why it's not registering the temps it should. How long have you had the heater set up for? What size is it?

Also ditch the heat rock ASAP! They're herp killers for sure.

I'll tell my husband about the heat rock. we have had the heater set up since yesterday about 3:00 pm EST. I'm not sure what size the UTH is. It came in a starter kit for snakes by zoo med. I think it's for a 10 gallon tank?
 
OKay..unplug the lights and the heat rock from the thermostat..leave the uth plugged in and mess with the thermostat a bit until you see it start to rise..Once it gets to about 85-86 degrees mess with it until you get it staying in that area..my guess is that there are to many different things being plugged in that the thermostat is getting confused..Also what kind of thermostat is it?

The UTH is all you really need for your corn..Once it's setup correctly it will give more then enough heat..lights are not needed and can really mess up the night and day clock for your snake..heat rocks are just plain bad..they can easily malfunction and really hurt your pet..I would say return it...
 
I'll tell my husband about the heat rock. we have had the heater set up since yesterday about 3:00 pm EST. I'm not sure what size the UTH is. It came in a starter kit for snakes by zoo med. I think it's for a 10 gallon tank?

Can you give us the dimensions of the UTH?
 
It's a nice cage, but as your corn grows it may need more. I tried to judge by the size of the sofa but I'm not sure. Can you tell us the size?



Yes, he's a nice little one. Is he an Anery? I wish my corn was still that tiny...

the tank is 18X18X18. Not sure on the gallons. We will get a longer cage as the snake grows. I'm not sure what kind of snake he is. We know he's a corn snake, but not sure on what type.
 
From the look of the setup I'd say the substrate is probably too deep as a starting point. Anything over 1 inch deep might be insulating the UTH.

Also, is the tank sitting directly on top of the UTH with the weight resting on it? If so, this might have broken the UTH. The tank needs to be raised slightly off the UTH to allow airflow over the surface. Could be it's alerady overheated and gone AWOL.

Could you let us know if you think the UTH and hot rock are both slightly warm or completely cold? As they don't have a thermostat attached, both should be well above 100 degrees (dangerous for Corns and enough to make you take your hand away pretty fast) if they're actually switched on.

At present, it seems quite lucky that they don't appear to be working - Corns are safer too cool than too hot and if all your kit was working full-blast, it'd be very bad for your little guy.

I suspect the shop has done a good job of selling you lots of kit, but not such a good job of selling you the correct kit for a Corn. Sorry, but it happens. We'll do all we can to help. Bear with us and keep posting answers while we try and figure this out.
 
Sorry..I thought I had read that they do have a thermostat..I went back and reread it...alright then...I would definitely suggest getting a thermostat...return the heat rock and with the money you can get a nice priced thermostat..Best place to get one online is at "Reptilesupply.com"..they have the Repti-Temp500R for like 20.00 I think..which is really good :0)
 
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