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How do we get the temp up?

From the dimensions you provided it's a 25 gallon. The only worry is that I think it will need more space on the bottom. Snakes climb, but they don't need a tall tank. I would suggest looking into a 20 long (which is a longer tank).
 
Maize411 said:
Sorry..I thought I had read that they do have a thermostat..I went back and reread it...alright then...I would definitely suggest getting a thermostat...return the heat rock and with the money you can get a nice priced thermostat..Best place to get one online is at "Reptilesupply.com"..they have the Repti-Temp500R for like 20.00 I think..which is really good :0)
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You can make one for under 10$. Search rheostat.
 
Corny Noob said:
Hmm cute little set up, but it's also pretty hard to make a tempature gradient with a cage that has such a small floor space. What about the question of whether or not you can actually feel heat coming off of the objects?
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I can feel heat coming off of the UTH and the lights. The rock is hot, so I am going to take that out. that would definitely burn him. Not sure on the dimensions of the UTH, it's covered with substrate and I can't lift the cage up right now. My 2 year old and 1 year old are in the room and it would give them ideas.
 
Well as Bitsy was alluding too. If they feel "hot" to you they're certainly way too hot, as what registers as cool to us is normally just right for the corns (but of course our hands are not thermometers!)
I'm starting to think the probe thermometer might be broken.
 
patm1313 said:
From the dimensions you provided it's a 25 gallon. The only worry is that I think it will need more space on the bottom. Snakes climb, but they don't need a tall tank. I would suggest looking into a 20 long (which is a longer tank).
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Oooh, my husband is not going to be happy about that!! The tank was $100 and he just bought it yesterday.
 
Oh yeah, the tank size isn't going to last much more than a year. A corn will need a minimum of a 20 long eventually as pat already mentioned.
 
Okay, so i just called Petco and it'sa 20 gallon UTH which she said was fine for my tank, but I should replace on e of the UV bulbs with a 50 watt basking bulb.
 
Well of course Petco is going to tell you that, they want you to buy more expensive light bulbs from them :)
Honestly the corns don't need the lights AT ALL it is just a waste of money. The lights are only for your benifit.
 
lol..well all ya need to do is bring the tank back..buy a nice 20 gallon long, a hide for each end (one for the cool side one for the warm side, some nice aspen bedding, maybe a branch or log for it to climb on and your all set to go.. :0)

Oh and a uth for a 10-20g tank..which I think you already have..
 
Ok, that size tank is fine for a youngster, but will need changing as your corn grows.

The substrate is too thick and is definitely insulating against the heat from the UTH, I know as I've run those tanks for juveniles myself :)

The bottom of the tank has raised corners, so would be completely safe to stand over a UTH, but it sounds like you are saying that you've put the Under Tank Heatmat, INSIDE the tank? It would probably be better if you could take it out and lay it under the tank, as there it will get some airflow over the mat, which is better, this will also stop the heat mat from shorting out. If it gets wet inside the tank (from urine or water bowl spillage) this could happen. Water + electricity = electric shock :(

You also said in a previous post that you are measuring the temp with a digital thermometer with probe ON the substrate, you need to remove some of the substrate till you have about an inch covering the bottom, the UTH should ideally be UNDER the tank, then you bury the probe from the thermometer in the substrate, right down to the bottom, on the glass, over the UTH. That's where you will get the most accurate reading and will be the hottest place your corn will be able to get to, as they love to burrow.

The heat mat should only cover about 1/3 of the bottom of the tank. The ones I use are the 6 inch x 11 inch, which cover 1/3 of the floor space in a tank that size.

Once you've done all that, then come back and let us know the temperature, I'm pretty sure that by removing a good couple of inches or so of those wood chips, you will be getting more heat over the hot end. :)

Hope that's helped a bit, good luck!
 
The UTH is UNDER the tank, sorry if I said otherwise. I'll remove some of the substrate when my husband gets home so he can help me. i'll update after we do that. thanks for all your help!
 
No problems, that's what we are all here for, to help others and share information :)

Good luck and don't forget to keep us posted :)

Best wishes,
 
patm1313 said:
You may want to move your corn's cage. You can place it under the sun, but not so it creates an greenhouse effect and it gets too hot.QUOTE]

You should never place a cage 'under the sun'. It will cause and immediate 'greenhouse effect'.
The sun and even its diffused rays through a window are warm, the viv is glass...that is exactly how a greenhouse functions.
There is no issue with a viv being in a sunny room out of direct light.
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In your picture there appears to be a nice thick layer of substrate...perhaps too much of a buffer for the UTH.:shrugs: (as Susielea pointed out)

For example, our UTH operates at 90*F, in the warm hide with a couple inches of aspen the temp is 80*F-84*F (depending night-day).
When I added about an inch more aspen the last viv cleaning the temp was at 75*F-78*F. (the temps on the surface of the substrate...the direct reading of the UTH was the same either way).

Adding heat lamps to help raise the temps dry the air quite a bit. You will need to add that humidity back esp during sheds...with a moist hide, mistings or which ever method you decide upon.


A bit hard to do with your viv but for ours (20 gallon long) I have covered 1/2the lid with a towel to help maintain temps and humidity.

best of luck!
Cute little snake:)
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You have way too much substrate. The UTH is plenty hot, it's too hot in fact, but all tha heat is down below the substrate. If the snake burrows down there it could be burned.

Remove most of that substrate, leave it deeper away from the UTH if you like but over the UTH have a very thin layer, less than 1". Put the thermometer probe UNDER the substrate directly on the glass over the UTH. Then cover it up with the thin layer of substrate.

That temp will probably read well over 100 degrees. Now you will need the rheostat/lamp dimmer or thermostat to regulate that temperature down to about 85.
 
Cam5 said:
patm1313 said:
You may want to move your corn's cage. You can place it under the sun, but not so it creates an greenhouse effect and it gets too hot.
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You should never place a cage 'under the sun'. It will cause and immediate 'greenhouse effect'.
The sun and even its diffused rays through a window are warm, the viv is glass...that is exactly how a greenhouse functions.
There is no issue with a viv being in a sunny room out of direct light.
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I'm sorry if I implied that I meant to place it in direct sunlight. That will probably cause overheating. I have my tank in a spot where a small amount of light hits it a small amount of the time.
 
UPDATE!!!! The heat lamp did the trick!! I also took out about 2 inches of substrate and that seemed to help also. the temp is currently at 83 and holding!! Now if I could only get it to stay warm in there at night when the lights are turned off. Anybody got any good advice on that one?
 
good to hear!
We have to leave our heat bulb on otherwise we would wake up to
snakesicles.
When this red bulb burns out I am getting a ceramic heat emitter, no light and lasts longer..of course more money:shrugs:
 
amyr said:
UPDATE!!!! The heat lamp did the trick!! I also took out about 2 inches of substrate and that seemed to help also. the temp is currently at 83 and holding!! Now if I could only get it to stay warm in there at night when the lights are turned off. Anybody got any good advice on that one?
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Well, I can't say anything about a heat lamp, as I haven't used one of those in years, but if you can get a rheostat for an UTH and just turn it up a bit right before you go to bed. It could work with a heat lamp, but Im not sure, and it probably wouldn't be worth risking.
 
amyr said:
UPDATE!!!! The heat lamp did the trick!! I also took out about 2 inches of substrate and that seemed to help also. the temp is currently at 83 and holding!! Now if I could only get it to stay warm in there at night when the lights are turned off. Anybody got any good advice on that one?
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I don't understand how the lamp is helping with the temp reading, if your measuring the temps on the heat mat. The lamp will only be helping with ambient temps.
 
snakewispera snr said:
I don't understand how the lamp is helping with the temp reading, if your measuring the temps on the heat mat. The lamp will only be helping with ambient temps.
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Yes, and someone along the line told me that "belly" temp (ie the temperature of the heat mat) is much more important then the ambient air temp.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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