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I want to feed my corn live?!

Shiari said:
Your attitude is why Petunia was surrendered to the vet after her owners lost her for a few days and she was ill once they did. She is now 5 months old
Your attitude is why Rosie was found tied to the door handles due to mild demodectic mange. She is about a year old.
Your attitude is likely why my mom's dog Shelby was at the pound (she was shortly diagnosed with epilepsy). Shels was 7 months old when we got her.
Your attitude is why you see so many craigslist adds for "I got this puppy but I'm gonna have a baby soon so I have to rehome it."
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And even if I can't give the pet the help it deserves, I DID say I would do everything in my power to find it the help it needs.

Thought I should repeat that in case it is overlooked.
 
Checkersthecornsnake said:
And even if I can't give the pet the help it deserves, I DID say I would do everything in my power to find it the help it needs.

Thought I should repeat that in case it is overlooked.
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And I'll repeat, also in bold:

Why would someone adopt an ill snake and take on those costs when they can get a healthy one?
 
I love these threads..... Round and round they go.....
Checkersthecornsnake said:
Once again, I applaud you on this, BUT would most pet owners do this? Realistically most pets are not taken care of properly, I do believe those that work at pet stores can second that. As a thread on here has been posted regarding how little owners know about their pets, and the ignorant question they ask pet store employees. I did EXTENSIVE research before I purchased my pet, and really plan on trying my best to ensure it has everything it needs and stays healthy.
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Where? Not here, for sure.
Or you wouldn't be stood at the bottom of a bloody deep hole, still digging... LMAO
 
Checkersthecornsnake said:
Someone who would want to save it and get it for no cost except medical bills and if it's cheap they may even save money rather then buying a healthy one
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I find this extremely humorous because, on second thought, you are probably right. There might be some person out there that would be willing to adopt your ill snake and get in fixed up. The problem is, it's not going to be someone who shares your attitude on pets. It's going to be someone like us that has a heart and feels sorry for your snake and wants to rescue it from it's sad situation. Which means, they're going to think you're a poor pet owner and that you shouldn't have gotten it in the first place. Just goes full circle... lol :)
 
Checkersthecornsnake said:
And saying I lost the straw draw here just makes you sound extremely rude and like this is a battle you have won. This isn't a war, I just feel that this thread should finish because it is becoming a pointless battle of conflicting views and those who keep this thread going are bothering those who don't want to receive notifications or be bothered by our discussion, not saying I'm not one of those people but I believe I have the right to contest against anything negative said about me whether it be in real life or online.
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What I meant is that the SNAKE Checkers got the short end of the straw, ending up with an owner like you........
A life is NOT something that can be tossed aside when it gets sick. Pet owners like you are the problem, a huge problem. I don't care that you seem to think other pet owners are worse than you are. A bad pet owner is a bad pet owner and that is that.

I also keep rats as pets. Rats that are fed to other things. Rats that are just about the most abused animal you will ever find. Since they are food for other things, there are no animal cruelty laws that shelter them.
One of my rats required $600 in surgery to live with me another year. So guess what this woman who drives a mid 90s station wagon and earns less than 35k a year did? Anyone? Bueller?

You say that our pets are lucky to have us. In poor little Checker's case, I beg to differ....
 
Katie612 said:
I find this extremely humorous because, on second thought, you are probably right. There might be some person out there that would be willing to adopt your ill snake and get in fixed up. The problem is, it's not going to be someone who shares your attitude on pets. It's going to be someone like us that has a heart and feels sorry for your snake and wants to rescue it from it's sad situation. Which means, they're going to think you're a poor pet owner and that you shouldn't have gotten it in the first place. Just goes full circle... lol :)
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Oohhh good catch!! That is EXACTLY right!!
 
starsevol said:
Like I said before, you can see all you want of that garbage on utube.
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HAHAA!!, yes, ain't THAT the truth!!. Countless videos there of newbie kids getting a thrill out of the needless torture and death of the rodents to see without doing it yourself, that's for darn sure!!

And to answer his other previous comment a ways back,......... a rodent doesn't suffer AT ALL if it is quickly and abruptly slammed on the hard floor or against a wall with enough force to kill it INSTANTLY rather than being constricted or swallowed alive.......simple as that. It's ONLY when this isn't done correctly and many people get all hesitant and unsure of themselves about HOW MUCH force to use that the rodent can suffer.

F/T is the only way to go unless a snake absolutely WILL NOT accept dead after all the "tricks" are applied and exhausted.



~Doug
 
Checkersthecornsnake said:
Someone who would want to save it and get it for no cost except medical bills and if it's cheap they may even save money rather then buying a healthy one
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I bought my pewter, Lacy, for $150 shipped. The first week I had her she went into the vet for a URI. That was an exam and radiographs. $200 vet bill.

For $200 I could get a very nice high expression pied-sided blood.
For $200 I could probably get a hypo sunkissed het charcoal female... or two.
For $200 I could get 3 top notch Miamis from Carol.
For $200 I could probably get a pair (or trio?) of charcoals het motley.
For $200, I could get 10 snakes from petco during the reptile sale. Or 5 snakes at the normal price.

You are deluding yourself. There is NO way that a corn with a health problem severe enough to warrant veterinary attention is going to be cheaper than getting a healthy one. A snake from Petco is $40. That's less than or equal to the cost of just the exam!
 
Well corn snakes around here from a good source is 100+ dollars for a juvenile, I also have a job now that I will be able to afford any vet bills. And I'm sorry but spending $600 dollars on a rat, is ignorant at best. Thats my opinion and like I said before you can get all the animal lovers on this forum to agree with you, BUT IN THE REAL WORLD I would put money down to see who would spend that money for a rat.

Hows this for an example: A teen that gets pregnant has three options, 1. Abortion, 2. Adoption, 3. Raise the baby themselves or have their parents to take on the responsibility. Abortion is the extreme end of things and I believe is something that should never be done (related to killing a sick animal), Adoption is the middle of the two, as you are not taking a life but simply trying to find your baby a better one, and three are for the more extreme people who are severely out weighed by options 1 and 2, and once again I'm not saying their wrong, they are just the rarer case. Also by throwing my whole set up in with the snake to an owner, they can easily spend 300 bucks on that set up with a healthy snake or take it for free and spend 300 bucks to cure the snake.

I must say I found this humorous on how ignorant you people are to call me a bad owner. I bet 90% of people would let a rat die then pay $600 dollars to cure it, and I am speaking of the whole world population. MOST PEOPLE HERE ARE THE MINORITY! Please remember that, and although you can have your opinion, and I have no problem with your opinion don't tell me the minority are going to change the majorities opinions on a subject such as this.

I find those who argue against my VERY REASONABLE points (towards the end of this thread) are just plain disrespectful to the rest of the human race that aren't like them and that in itself is a something looked down upon by society MUCH MORE then those who would give away $300 dollars of accessories and an animal in order to help cure a sick animal.
 
snakewispera snr said:
I love these threads..... Round and round they go.....

Where? Not here, for sure.
Or you wouldn't be stood at the bottom of a bloody deep hole, still digging... LMAO
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Ya unfortunately it wasn't here, but I still had much more knowledge then most first time reptile owners. (Once again supported by people on this forum complaining about how ignorant people are that ask pet stores dumb questions on how to maintain a pet after buying one)
 
Checkersthecornsnake said:
Well corn snakes around here from a good source is 100+ dollars for a juvenile,

Hows this for an example: A teen that gets pregnant has three options

Also by throwing my whole set up in with the snake to an owner, they can easily spend 300 bucks on that set up with a healthy snake or take it for free and spend 300 bucks to cure the snake.

Please remember that, and although you can have your opinion, and I have no problem with your opinion don't tell me the minority are going to change the majorities opinions on a subject such as this.
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You can get a baby Anery at a reptile show here for $15. If you're paying $100 for a common morph snake, you're getting skunked.

You're comparing pet ownership to pregnancy and childbearing? Wow. I'm not even going to go there, that's just assenine.

You could also easily spend $45 on a Rubber Maid tub, a heater, a light dimmer, and some shredded paper towels. Might not be "pretty", but it works. $300 is not necessary on a setup.

I'm glad you have no problem with our opinions. So why are you still arguing?
 
Because there seems to be a problem with me and my opinions and I don't appreciate it. Clearly your the one that's "just asinine" if you don't get the point of responsibility in that metaphor.
 
It is not unnecessary but you seem to lack to knowledge to get the point of me giving away $300 dollars worth of stuff for free in order to cure my pet. And also I'm glad you can get corn's for 15 dollars where you live, but clearly things are very different where I live.
 
Checkersthecornsnake said:
Because there seems to be a problem with me and my opinions and I don't appreciate it. Clearly your the one that's "just asinine" if you don't get the point of responsibility in that metaphor.
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I don't agree that a responsibility to a pet is the same as a responsibility to a child. I don't have a problem with you personally. I am attempting to explain my views and show my agreement with statements that others have made.

Agree to disagree?
 
Checkersthecornsnake said:
And I'm sorry but spending $600 dollars on a rat, is ignorant at best. Thats my opinion and like I said before you can get all the animal lovers on this forum to agree with you, BUT IN THE REAL WORLD I would put money down to see who would spend that money for a rat.
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Soooo... All the clients that come into the veterinary hospital where I work aren't part of the "real world"?

The people who spent $600 on a kitten they found that was attacked by something like a racoon? They couldn't afford surgery, but spent what they could giving that kitten the best chance they could, and it should be okay.

The people who spend $400 trying to save their guinea pig (heart failure, ended up euthanising)?

The two different clients who today spent a grand each on a dog with bladder stones, and a dog with a giant hematoma from getting bumped by a car?

The people who recently spent $2500 for orthopedic surgery/meds/boarding on meds on their dog?

The person who spent $100 on a finch they found?

The person who spent $250 getting exam/x-rays/repeat antibiotics.... for their 4 gram turtle?

The person who spent $150+ getting a foxtail removed from their cat's eye?

The people who spend a thousand a year treating their pet's diabetes or renal failure?



It is a simple fact that if you get a pet when you don't have the basic funds for even a 'minor' vet visit you are a very irresponsible pet owner. It's one thing to be faced with a sudden $4k vet fee that you are unable to afford, and another thing entirely when it's $200.
 
I've spent that kind of money on surgery for a rat. I'd do it again too. I recently spent $80 on veterinary care for a mouse.

Last time my dog got sick, it was over $700.

Last time my cat got sick, it was over $500.

I've never hesitated, even when that $700 vet bill for my dog meant that that month's rent had to be paid with my credit card.

An important part of having a pet is being prepared to care for it if it becomes ill. That's part of preparing to have a pet at ALL.
 
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