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New Bloodred Corn . . .

it would be interesting also

to see if this is the WS gene at work - by test breeding to a WS ratsnake. It just looks so much like the WS gene, which we know has popped up in several species of snakes. I have heard that someone crossed WS blackrats with WS everglades and got all WS babies. Even if they are different local/subspecies/species, it is possible that the gene could be compatible. Any chance that you guys would sell a het from that breeding for test breeding to a WS ratsnake? If it is not compatible, then there would be a lot more work to determine what is going on. If it is compatible, then you would have a lot of questions answered (as far as genetics.)
 
OMG!! Stunning!! I have a year to save up, I have a year to save up...breathe!

I want on the waiting list for next year Don! I almost fell off my chair when I saw that picture!
 
bloods/whitesides

chausies said:
and Franklin, I had the same idea! I bought some white-sided everglades to breed with a bloodred. I figured it would make some awesome red snakes, and whitesided corn (hybrids) would look cool. If you do the breeding, I would love to hear about your results. I have a 2003 and 2004 female WS glades, the 2004 is poss het hypo. Don's WS bloodreds look like what I expected the offspring to look like (some red would likely "bleed" into the white, just as it does on the WS glades, and just as it does on the belly of the bloodred.)
Let's keep in touch on this project.

Thanks
 
I just noticed this

Oh, and Don if you need additional meteor-proofing, I'd be happy to volunteer for that duty.

Wouldn't we all volunteer for that job!! I live in Oregon, we are hurricane proof out here too! :crazy02:
 
mrweaw said:
I almost fell off my chair when I saw that picture!
You aren't the only one!

Don those are amazing snakes! I'm definitely gonna have to have a pair of those one day! Thanks for sharing the pics!
 
Amazing and beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!! What fun! It just boggles the mind to think of all the wonderful new combinations. Thanks for sharing Don!
 
Could this be related to the piebald blood that Frank Pinello hatched out a couple of years ago?
 
"They're off the charts", just like you said.

They are not what I expected, but better! I will be surprised if you don't see the Pied markings moving north very soon. I see a few white spots that are not on the sides already.
 
Khaman said:
Could this be related to the piebald blood that Frank Pinello hatched out a couple of years ago?

if I recall, (i could be wrong) Frank Pinello's "odd" bloodred wasn't a piebald, it didn't have white...but it had lots of patches that looked "ghost-like".

but this thread also got me thinking about that animal, I'd love to see a recent picture of it! (but I don't see Frank post any more)
 
I just remembered that there is a very similar form of piebaldism that only appears ventrally and laterally in the Persian Ratsnake, Elaphe persica. I think that this bloodred mutation may be related to that. The Persian Ratsnakes are patternless so there is no way of knowing whether the "piebaldness" is linked to what would be the bloodred mutation. I'm left wondering if the bloodred part and the piebald part are the same mutation or maybe just closely linked mutations. Whatever the mutation, WOW!
 
Gorgeous!

It is great to see something entirely new and exciting again, instead of just new combos (as pretty as they are!!). Kudos to all of you for the hard work to prove them out!

I think it would be cute to call them "pied side" - kinda rolls off the tongue, lol!

Please post new photos every few months so we can watch them mature.

Congratulations!
 
Here is a picture of the piebald Elaphe persica.

piebaldpersianratsnakes


My appologies to the owner of this picture for not acknowledging them, I'm not sure whose it is.
 

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HYBRID!! HYBRID!! HYBRID!!

:roflmao: :roflmao:

Sorry, couldn't help myself........... :rolleyes:
 
Rich Z said:
HYBRID!! HYBRID!! HYBRID!!

:roflmao: :roflmao:

Sorry, couldn't help myself........... :rolleyes:

I know you're just kidding, but let me go on the record as saying I make no implication that these are hybrids and there are no documented cases of viable offspring from a cross between an old world and a new world Elaphe (Pantherophis).
 
those are awesome Don. i kinda figured it would only be a matter of time before some white-sided like gene turned up in corns. now, when's leucism gonna turn up?

imagine a pied-sided lavender bloodred-*wipes drool from chin :)
 
Gronk said:
Cherry Pie Bloodreds ? ;)

Now I have Warrant playing over and over in my head thanks to you Mike! :grin01:

Rich Z said:
HYBRID!! HYBRID!! HYBRID!!

:roflmao: :roflmao:

Sorry, couldn't help myself........... :rolleyes:

You little brat... lol
 
W. O. W. Those are some absolutely STUNNING animals.. I think I may just have to start saving some serious cash for a pair.. as if I'm not living hand to mouth as it is.. lol.. maybe by the time you do start selling some we'll have our business more up nad running than it is now.. Major kudos, and thank you for shareing.. Like Kathy said, it's wonderful to see something new on the market.. So uh.. when are you accepting deposits..? lol j/k.. kind of.. lol

Laine
 
Hey Don,
these are amazing snakes ! Why don't you farm out a couple to Belgium (meteorite free country , lol ) to be safe .
The bloodred keeps me fascinating , but this snakes even more .

C U Marc V
 
Wow Don, those are incredible. Why don't you send a couple over too your brother and I will farm some here for ya. lol...... Congrats Don. :santa: :santa: :santa:

Don Gallagher
 
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