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New proof of aliens?

rich333 said:
The bandwidth the signal was discovered on is now banned?

I believe it's nicknamed the "WOW Signal".
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I believe that particular bandwidth was already banned prior to the "Wow!" recording. Also, it isn't necessarily "banned", in the sense of the word. The bandwidth is referred to as "protected spectrum", which is a frequency that's set aside, forbidden to transmitters outside of astronomical purposes and research. It was already existing, because the signal was originally speculated to be a terrestrial signal that was reflected off a space object, but being that it fell within the "protected spectrum", it proved unlikely that they were terrestrial sourced.

Let it be known that Jerry Ehman, the scientist who recorded the famous signal and wrote the even more famed "Wow!" notation, was conducting the research experiment for extra terrestrial theory, but he does not rule out the source being something familiar and overlooked, perhaps military.

As he states, he wishes to avoid "drawing vast conclusions from half-vast data."
 
Mogey said:
I believe that particular bandwidth was already banned prior to the "Wow!" recording. Also, it isn't necessarily "banned", in the sense of the word. The bandwidth is referred to as "protected spectrum", which is a frequency that's set aside, forbidden to transmitters outside of astronomical purposes and research. It was already existing, because the signal was originally speculated to be a terrestrial signal that was reflected off a space object, but being that it fell within the "protected spectrum", it proved unlikely that they were terrestrial sourced.

Let it be known that Jerry Ehman, the scientist who recorded the famous signal and wrote the even more famed "Wow!" notation, was conducting the research experiment for extra terrestrial theory, but he does not rule out the source being something familiar and overlooked, perhaps military.

As he states, he wishes to avoid "drawing vast conclusions from half-vast data."
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Well, right. But who pays his paycheck?

I think there are individuals in high places who know a lot more than they are telling. Plain & simple.

All of the info you & I have to form an opinion on comes from who?
Governed by who?

They took god out of the classrooms for a reason.
 
See if you can come up with any GOOD reason why any government would want to keep extraterrestrials a secret........
 
Rich, I see it the opposite way. Give a good reason to NOT keep it secret. It's similar to having an ace up your sleeve - technology, benefits, research... capitalization at its utmost; a way to stay the #1 superpower.
 
Widespread panic, global reaction, treacherous opportunists, to name a few at least decent reasons, Rich. If the news of a worse-than-average storm becomes known, people leave their homes and stock for weeks worth of food and supplies regardless of the perceived magnitude of the weather. Better safe than sorry, I know, but I can't help but see overreaction as a form of programming.

On topic, though, withholding information increases its value. When less individuals are in control of an object or idea, it retains a higher usefulness both in the dimension of the object or idea, and also in the dimension of profitability (in the sense that the object or idea in question is now valuable to others who seek it, regardless of its actual use. Comparable to people paying crazy money for the newest fad morph in Cresteds or Corns. Once it's common, it denotes value).

Do I see withholding information as a good thing however, no I do not. But then again, wouldn't be the first time the government does something that isn't completely in our benefit.
 
Nope.... Can't think of any good reasons to keep us in the dark.
Except religious belief.

If you knew there was no god... And you weren't going to spend all eternity in hell for being bad.... I would imagine most humans would be bad. It's in our nature.

By keeping "god" intact, you keep "control" of the masses to a greater extent.

Other than that, no good reason. Actually, this isn't much of a good reason either!
 
I don't know why there are statements clinging to the belief that scientists are only looking for life forms that are similar to us?
It has already been accepted and is known that it is entirely possible that other life forms will be vastly different and the tests conducted today try to accommodate that to the best of our abilities.

One does have to recall though that, if we set aside the notion of intelligent design, one of the main arguments are that the chance for life to form is very minuscule... and was only possible exactly because the universe is so vast that it is quite likely to have occurred -somewhere-, and that somewhere being here.

Whether or not it is likely to have repeated itself... well, claiming either way is asserting without having sufficient data really.
 
Unless your an airline pilot, astronaut, or government official who is privy to such info.

I agree though, most of us have never seen a UFO. Probably never will.

So we are left to " guess" until someone tells us otherwise.
 
Mogey said:
Widespread panic, global reaction, treacherous opportunists, to name a few at least decent reasons, Rich. If the news of a worse-than-average storm becomes known, people leave their homes and stock for weeks worth of food and supplies regardless of the perceived magnitude of the weather. Better safe than sorry, I know, but I can't help but see overreaction as a form of programming.
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That would be true only is the news about aliens is BAD news, I would think. Otherwise why would people panic upon learning that there are other races out there, even much more advanced than we are? Perhaps that would be because most people would believe that aliens would be just a more advanced version of ourselves. Which, quite frankly, would scare the hell out of me, too.

I would HOPE that they were different in a better way. But certainly there is more than one race out there, and quite likely they will be as different from each other as they would be different from us in nearly all respects.

Again, the infinite possibilities thing.

It may not be an accident that the primary survival tool of species on this planet is simply avoidance of other species. Maybe Earth sending out "HERE WE ARE!" signals into space isn't really such a smart idea until we know what might be out there listening.

Speaking of which, I always get a chuckle out of the science fiction movies showing alien invasions where the aliens come in guns a blazing trying to conquer our planet and eradicate humanity. Seriously, if you have an ant infestation, do you use a BB gun to try to eradicate them? Think about it....
 
rich333 said:
Unless your an airline pilot, astronaut, or government official who is privy to such info.

I agree though, most of us have never seen a UFO. Probably never will.

So we are left to " guess" until someone tells us otherwise.
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I don't know how true this statement is Rich. I've seen one multiple times. My mom has seen them since she was a child and even had re-occurring bad dreams about them. One time, there was a good 5 other people witnessing one with me; we couldn't believe it - how fast it was. It was very bright and hovered over a large tree in our back yard. It moved up and down, back and forth- changing momentum quicker than anything I've ever seen.
I am not making this up or over exaggerating. If you mean up close and personal; well, I imagine that that is true.
 
I think the general thought is that humanity got to the top by being violent and destroying the competition, so it is feared that any aliens would be the same.
However, with the infinite possibilities of the universe, somewhere perhaps it would take peace to reach the peak of existence. Thereby peaceful, non military aliens -could- exist.
Granted, it's likely they'd be attacked upon arrival at Earth though, as humans tend to be suspicious as a whole.

This is really interesting to me, I love any form of alien studies. I've had encounters with stranger things than extraterrestrials in my life, so I see aliens as definitely existing somewhere.
 
rich333 said:
Nope.... Can't think of any good reasons to keep us in the dark.
Except religious belief.

If you knew there was no god... And you weren't going to spend all eternity in hell for being bad.... I would imagine most humans would be bad. It's in our nature.

By keeping "god" intact, you keep "control" of the masses to a greater extent.

Other than that, no good reason. Actually, this isn't much of a good reason either!
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I can't imagine needing religion to understand that murder is wrong. That rape is wrong. "Men never commit evil so fully and joyfuly as when they do it for religious convictions" Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)

With that being said, I see no reason not to believe that there is not the possibility of life on other planets.
 
Carpe Serpentis said:
I can't imagine needing religion to understand that murder is wrong. That rape is wrong. "Men never commit evil so fully and joyfuly as when they do it for religious convictions" Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)

With that being said, I see no reason not to believe that there is not the possibility of life on other planets.
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Believe it? Shoot, I'm Betting on it!!!
 
Tara80 said:
I don't know how true this statement is Rich. I've seen one multiple times. My mom has seen them since she was a child and even had re-occurring bad dreams about them. One time, there was a good 5 other people witnessing one with me; we couldn't believe it - how fast it was. It was very bright and hovered over a large tree in our back yard. It moved up and down, back and forth- changing momentum quicker than anything I've ever seen.
I am not making this up or over exaggerating. If you mean up close and personal; well, I imagine that that is true.
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Tara,

I don't doubt that some people have had an experience. No Doubt in my mind.
 
Rich Z said:
That would be true only is the news about aliens is BAD news, I would think. Otherwise why would people panic upon learning that there are other races out there, even much more advanced than we are? Perhaps that would be because most people would believe that aliens would be just a more advanced version of ourselves. Which, quite frankly, would scare the hell out of me, too.

I would HOPE that they were different in a better way. But certainly there is more than one race out there, and quite likely they will be as different from each other as they would be different from us in nearly all respects.

Again, the infinite possibilities thing.

It may not be an accident that the primary survival tool of species on this planet is simply avoidance of other species. Maybe Earth sending out "HERE WE ARE!" signals into space isn't really such a smart idea until we know what might be out there listening.

Speaking of which, I always get a chuckle out of the science fiction movies showing alien invasions where the aliens come in guns a blazing trying to conquer our planet and eradicate humanity. Seriously, if you have an ant infestation, do you use a BB gun to try to eradicate them? Think about it....
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I agree with you. I, personally See no reason to "Freak Out" upon learning that we aren't alone.

As for the Sci-Fi Alien Invasion... yeah, it's a bit much.

If it were me....The low, Slow approach, is best. Learn all you can..send in Scouts to learn our biology, what we eat etc. Abduct a few specimens for research purposes... DNA samples... figure out what makes them tick.
Then over a period of time...I'd release Germs genetically altered to cause mass plagues....and when they have become immune to that, or figure out how to get around it, I'd release another,..... Something that Kills them when they try to reproduce, Because EVERYBODY at some point would try to reproduce.

:eek:

Wait!!!!!

O M G!!!!

It's Already Happening!!!!!! :sidestep:
 
I like your statement about organized religion, Rich. There's a certain truth to that, and it can be applied to many things outside of religion as well.

Kokopelli said:
One does have to recall though that, if we set aside the notion of intelligent design, one of the main arguments are that the chance for life to form is very minuscule... and was only possible exactly because the universe is so vast that it is quite likely to have occurred -somewhere-, and that somewhere being here.
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Well, you'd have to believe we are that exception. Yes, the odds of life forming in an environment that didn't previously have life are pretty minuscule. But in our vast and ever-expanding universe, I believe the odds that we are that exception, and that it only occurred once, are statistically staggering.

$.02
 
Holy crap, I spent too long typing that reply. An entire new page started

My point is so invalid now :poke:

Geeze, and I've been browsing the behavior and husbandry forums while I was bored at work. This one is the place to be!
 
I have figured out why them thar aliens pick on us poor rednecks. They grab us up out of our pickups and take us into the mothership and buttdiddle us and then put us back in our trucks with a bottle of whiskey. That way everyone just thinks it is a drunk redneck seeing thangs. Instead of them seeing it is really aliens lol
 
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